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Miami Freight

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I know a small law firm that is planning on buying an Eclipse 500. One of the partners is a qualified pilot but they want someone else who can fly part time. They've asked if I am interested. When we talk money what should I tell them I am willing to work for. I'm not familiar with this side of the industry and don't want to "lower the bar".
 
Miami Freight said:
I'm not familiar with this side of the industry ".

I don't think anyone is familiar. I was just asking about this issue a couple of days ago. Join us in my threat of VLJ info and religion apparently.
 
First there has to be bar to lower. Are you being asked to be a safety pilot or to really be the pilot for the aircraft. My off the cuff guess is that these are going to be $50k to $60 captains. It is sort of like King Air today. These will become the transition aircraft to jets./
 
Let me see....working for a lawyer, that's also a pilot. I don't think there's enough money in the whole world for that.

But if you must, I wish you good luck.
 
Miami Freight said:
I know a small law firm that is planning on buying an Eclipse 500. One of the partners is a qualified pilot but they want someone else who can fly part time. They've asked if I am interested. When we talk money what should I tell them I am willing to work for. I'm not familiar with this side of the industry and don't want to "lower the bar".

Geez, where do I start...

First of all, it's still a jet aircraft that presumably will be up there sharing the skies with the likes of myself who really likes to get home safely in the evening without the likes of a "qualified" lawyer pilot smacking in to me... As such you should be paid as a "professional pilot" operating a jet aircraft as PIC. Now, down to the meat and potatoes... Tell us which region the position is located within and someone could help.

I say at least 65K + bennies, more if it's somewhere expensive... Now I'm sure there will be someone along telling me that's unreasonable.
 
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I honestly wonder how truthful that statement is.

who cares what altitude they fly. They have an autopilot just like us, an FMS just like us and really, everything we depend on just like us.

How dangerous can they be? You paint doom and gloom.

What about the 500 hour pilots in the flight levels?
 
h25b said:
Geez, where do I start...

First of all, it's still a jet aircraft that presumably will be up there sharing the skies with the likes of myself who really likes to get home safely in the evening without the likes of a "qualified" lawyer pilot smacking in to me... As such you should be paid as a "professional pilot" operating a jet aircraft as PIC. Now, down to the meat and potatoes... Tell us which region the position is located within and someone could help.

I say at least 65K + bennies, more if it's somewhere expensive... Now I'm sure there will be someone along telling me that's unreasonable.

That's unreasonable.....HA! :laugh:
 
jumppilot said:
What about the 500 hour pilots in the flight levels?

As in SkyWest, Mesa, and a few other regionals hiring 500hr wonders who need to be babysitted by their captains? That's a scarier thought than VLJ's being flown by Doctors and Lawyers, I $hit you not! :eek:
 
jumppilot said:
I honestly wonder how truthful that statement is.

who cares what altitude they fly. They have an autopilot just like us, an FMS just like us and really, everything we depend on just like us.

How dangerous can they be? You paint doom and gloom.

What about the 500 hour pilots in the flight levels?


Let's think about this one for a moment... I would assume the 500 hr. pilots you're referring to are at the regional airlines. Those pilots are operating with other pilots under strict Part 121 reg. between common city pairs to mostly nice long runways. Comparing that to what these VLJ's will be doing is hardly realistic. The training is also very different.

We all know how much luck they've had with Bonanza's and lights twins...
 
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Hi!

DayJet is advertising for Eclipse capts at $50K, but the bennies/schedule are really good (every weekend off, and home in base every night), so for a comparable salary at a normal job the pay would have to be higher.

cliff
YIP
 
The job being offered is not full time. Basically they want me to fly the aircraft to the site where the team, including me, would be doing some work. It is in the Southeast and I would only charge them for the time in the aircraft. I would not be on call nor would I be babysitting the other pilot. He actually has a few thousand hours in the King Air so I think he'll be okay. In a nutshell they hired me as an outside consultant for the firm and said, "by the way would you like to fly the Eclipse too?" Sounds like fun to me but I'm a professional and have to be paid if I lay my ticket on the line. Thanks for the discussion so far.
 
jumppilot said:
How dangerous can they be? You paint doom and gloom.

What about the 500 hour pilots in the flight levels?

I have a feeling the insurance companies will take care of that
 
Miami--I'd say the daily rate should be in the $400-$500 range, especially with your experience. (Whether your experience is relevent or not, I'd play that card to the hilt! ;) )

In corporate, if you touch the airplane, you get the daily rate--trip length doesn't matter. Good luck and remember: you flare at 5 feet, not 100 feet. ;) TC
 
I can imagine the first time I land a small plane in a few years. The mantra would be "flare at 5, flare at 5". Thanks for the input. I agree, a few hundred per leg at least. I'd be saving them a bundle on their insurance due to my time.
 
Eclipse

AA717; In Europe we are thinking the rate should be 800$ per day.....

I am also looking at providing a mentoring package for VLJ's.



Miami Freight; 5ft is a big surprise......

Bumz
 
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atpcliff said:
Hi!

DayJet is advertising for Eclipse capts at $50K, but the bennies/schedule are really good (every weekend off, and home in base every night), so for a comparable salary at a normal job the pay would have to be higher.

cliff
YIP

How can every CA be at home every weekend? If so, are you done at midnight Fri night and back at it Monday at 6 AM? The devil's in the details. Interesting to see how it really pans out. Management has a way of spinning things.
 
atpcliff said:
DayJet is advertising for Eclipse capts at $50K, but the bennies/schedule are really good (every weekend off, and home in base every night), so for a comparable salary at a normal job the pay would have to be higher.
Yeah, that will last :rolleyes: - until a customer wants to fly somewhere Saturday morning and someone else wants to return on Sunday. Nope, passengers never want to do that. Or fly at night.

While I admire their goal, it's just not realistic in an air taxi type of business.
 

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