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With the Delta CPA, if THEY initiate the cancel we still get paid. Unless it bas changed.

I have flown a roundtrip TOTALLY empty for completion factor more than once.
 
So the DAL CPA is like our old CAL CPA then where if they cancel it we still get paid.

Whoever negotiated our current UAL/CAL CPA was an idiot in that regard.

I think this causes UAL to CX WAY TO MANY flights when they dont really have to. Its no skin off their back. I have seen wholesale cancellations of XJT flights in the UAL system(all were listed as "UAL initiated" on the XJET homepage) while mainline operates on time all day(I wonder how empty most of those flights were) and then we look like the bad guys because we have ********************ty performance numbers when it was UAL who caused the cancels in the first place.
 
The lifers bitching on xjet.com about the tiny perf plus check is comical. Bitch, you work for a crappy regional!
 
$60 bucks is a lot of coin for our FOs who are very fond of the tuna helper. Perhaps they could see fit to purchase something marginally less pungent and contributory toward the ginormous wasitline.
 
Clutch said:
The lifers bitching on xjet.com about the tiny perf plus check is comical. Bitch, you work for a crappy regional!
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As evidenced by NOT being paid correctly almost EVERY month.

So as I read elsewhere, that post tax check doesn't even cover all the unpaid time fixing the company's and rainmakers continuous screw ups.
 
dojetdriver said:
As evidenced by NOT being paid correctly almost EVERY month.

So as I read elsewhere, that post tax check doesn't even cover all the unpaid time fixing the company's and rainmakers continuous screw ups.
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You really think that they screw up by accident? Odd, that they never screw up in favor of the pilot.....
 
Express Jet question. I heard that they has a high percentage of "No Shows" at recent New Hire class dates
 
pilotyip said:
Express Jet question. I heard that they has a high percentage of "No Shows" at recent New Hire class dates
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Supposedly only 14 of 16 showed for class a week or two ago. I wouldnt call that a high percentage.

And who knows what that was for either(our company surely doesnt share ANY information with us about what goes on with our own company). Every regional sucks to work at so maybe they lived in a base of one of the other regionals that are hiring(i.e. everybody but pinnacle) and got a call for them and decided to not commute or move which is smart. I dont think people are not showing up to class because they dont want to fly for the regionals. I talk to guys about once a month or so that are trying to get on with somebody, but they only have 1200 hours(or something like that). They are WANTING to come to the regionals even though I tell them to go back to medical school.
 
dojetdriver said:
Ahhhhh.........no
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They sent me a check for moving expenses a few years ago. I never changed bases. I called them and emailed them 5-6 times about it and finally gave up. In the last Email, I told them that I had done my due diligence and that it was the last time I would be trying to give it back. I'm not gonna beg.

I still have it sitting in savings in case they find their mistake someday.

Meanwhile we're broke and there's no accountability for anyone over at the GO.
 
COOPERVANE said:
They sent me a check for moving expenses a few years ago. I never changed bases. I called them and emailed them 5-6 times about it and finally gave up. In the last Email, I told them that I had done my due diligence and that it was the last time I would be trying to give it back. I'm not gonna beg.

I still have it sitting in savings in case they find their mistake someday.

Meanwhile we're broke and there's no accountability for anyone over at the GO.
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I'm surprised they didn't take it out of your paycheck. SEVERAL on the ERJ side have had deductions taken for previous overpayments.
 
dojetdriver said:
I'm surprised they didn't take it out of your paycheck. SEVERAL on the ERJ side have had deductions taken for previous overpayments.
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Several years ago, there was an ASA pilot that was getting paid a rate 1 year ahead of where he was in seniority. Pay roll finally caught the glitch and went after the pilot. I think the guy owed 10k or better in overpayed wages. He kept the cash and resigned.
 
Not pilot related, but company related. Just talked to inflight recruiter and they cant find flight attendants either. In fact, last class had 24 quit before graduating. Thats awesome!

Wake Up Mr Holt! The depth of the crap has far exceeded the tops of your boots!
 
ASApuppy said:
Not pilot related, but company related. Just talked to inflight recruiter and they cant find flight attendants either. In fact, last class had 24 quit before graduating. Thats awesome!

Wake Up Mr Holt! The depth of the crap has far exceeded the tops of your boots!
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Your going to Blame Brad for that?
 
russtgol said:
Your going to Blame Brad for that?
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That seems reasonable. If FA candidates show up for class, that means they have already agreed to work for the lousy compensation. If they quit before completing class, that means that something happened in the class that made them feel the deal was no longer worth it. That is a failure of leadership--a compelling leader would make them MORE eager, not less, to begin their new career.

Sure, some may have had no clue what being a FA entailed, but I'd wager that far more just wouldn't put up with the belittling personal treatment that our FAs are given. I know some people really need to be told that the company won't put up with any nonsense, but I do feel there is much room for improvement in human relations here.
 
Sometimes better opportunities and jobs come along and people move on to greener pastures! The airline/aviation industry either competes with other industries for the few resources and personnel or fall to the wayside. Next victim please.
 
ASApuppy said:
Wake Up Mr Holt! The depth of the crap has far exceeded the tops of your boots!
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He's just a puppet. The strings are being pulled by St. George. Everyone knows that.
 
JustaNumber said:
That seems reasonable. If FA candidates show up for class, that means they have already agreed to work for the lousy compensation. If they quit before completing class, that means that something happened in the class that made them feel the deal was no longer worth it. That is a failure of leadership--a compelling leader would make them MORE eager, not less, to begin their new career.

Sure, some may have had no clue what being a FA entailed, but I'd wager that far more just wouldn't put up with the belittling personal treatment that our FAs are given. I know some people really need to be told that the company won't put up with any nonsense, but I do feel there is much room for improvement in human relations here.
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Every new hire flight attendant I've flown with said FA training was the worst experience of their life. I am not a bit surprised that 24 FAs quit with the way they are treated like animals during training.

Whatever they are doing out there on the Skywest side, especially when it comes to recruiting, they are doing it right and need to implement it over here.
 
Maybe scaring off a few new hire flight attendants isn't such a bad thing considering some of the talent we bring in being based in the ghetto capitol of the world.

Ya mean?
 
777forever said:
Every new hire flight attendant I've flown with said FA training was the worst experience of their life. I am not a bit surprised that 24 FAs quit with the way they are treated like animals during training.

Whatever they are doing out there on the Skywest side, especially when it comes to recruiting, they are doing it right and need to implement it over here.
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This place still runs exactly the way it did when George and John were running the company.
 
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Clutch said:
Maybe scaring off a few new hire flight attendants isn't such a bad thing considering some of the talent we bring in being based in the ghetto capitol of the world.

Ya mean?
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Atlanta is known as home to the largest community of affluent African Americans in the USA. Racist much?
 
777forever said:
Atlanta is known as home to the largest community of affluent African Americans in the USA. Racist much?
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Greenwich, CT is known as home to some of the richest white people in the USA. Doesn't mean they're signing up as ASA flight attendants.
 
Oakum_Boy said:
Greenwich, CT is known as home to some of the richest white people in the USA. Doesn't mean they're signing up as ASA flight attendants.
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enuffalready said:
.. and none of them work as FA's for ASA
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My statement has nothing to do with the ASA FAs. Clutch stated "based in the Ghetto Capital of the World"

Atlanta is not the Ghetto Capital of the world, and far from it.
 

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