Eagle Air Med

[Ozpilot414]

Looking for information of Eagle Air Med. Most of the info on here is a couple of years old and was wondering if anyone has any updates on the good, bad, QOL and how it is to live out in the woods.

Thanks

 

[414Flyer]

Woods? what woods.

 

[Ozpilot414]

BFE? on the Reservation? In the middle of no where?

 

[414Flyer]

Well there is a hot woman behind every tree out there on the Rez.

 

[Ozpilot414]

Do you work out there? Work for Eagle Air Med? Have any information for me?

 

[ksu_aviator]

The eagle flies when the wounded bear cries.

 

[avbug]

What woods on the res?

Quality of life? It's the reservation.

 

[414Flyer]

What woods on the res?

Quality of life? It's the reservation.

You know those woods. There is a hot woman behind every tree there at Kayenta.

 

[avbug]

My dog came from Kayenta. Picked it up at the gas station. Someone chopped off the tail with an axe. it was so distended it looked like a soccer ball with stub legs. Today it's the best dog I ever had.

Not sure about women behind trees, there. Not so many trees, and the women just aren't that skinny.

 

[Meat n the Seat]

My dog came from Kayenta. Picked it up at the gas station. Someone chopped off the tail with an axe. it was so distended it looked like a soccer ball with stub legs. Today it's the best dog I ever had.

Yea, They have a LOT of great dogs out there. What they need is a spay and neuter clinic.

I can only assume but... How did you like EAM?

 

[414Flyer]

I wouldnt say that anyone LIKES EAM, they just put up with it for a bit to make some money.

 

[Ozpilot414]

Finally some information...not much but some....

 

[AMANSWORLD]

Run- The place is dangerous. Always has been.

 

[Meat n the Seat]

"Run- The place is dangerous. Always has been"
That's a shame...thanks Friend.

 

[avbug]

Amansworld is quite correct.

 

[surveypilot]

I noticed that Eagle Air Med has a new posting for pilots on findapilot. This thread was the most recent information I could find. Anyone have any current information on this company. I am specifically wanting to know if their safety culture has improved any from the older threads that I have found on FI. What is the current pay and schedule like? Any other info that might be useful?

Thanks

 

[AMANSWORLD]

Run far away. Far, far away!

 

[surveypilot]

Thanks. That is what I was afraid of.

Run far away. Far, far away!

 

[414Flyer]

I have no idea what things are like out there now, some of their job ads in the had been a bit misleading when it came to pay. Back in 2005, they would advertise the job as paying 63k, but that was if you worked 5 extra days of overtime, and not a 20/10 schedule. Spending 25 days a month in Kayenta or Chinle is not everyones cup of tea. Spending any time there isnt for that matter.

I would imagine that 90k they are advertising, is dependent again on giving up some of your days off to get that pay. 5 days a month off would not be enough for me, because it is going to take a just to leave, and a day to drive back.

 

[surveypilot]

Thanks for the info!

I have no idea what things are like out there now, some of their job ads in the had been a bit misleading when it came to pay. Back in 2005, they would advertise the job as paying 63k, but that was if you worked 5 extra days of overtime, and not a 20/10 schedule. Spending 25 days a month in Kayenta or Chinle is not everyones cup of tea. Spending any time there isnt for that matter.

I would imagine that 90k they are advertising, is dependent again on giving up some of your days off to get that pay. 5 days a month off would not be enough for me, because it is going to take a just to leave, and a day to drive back.

 

[Nolife]

Talked to them a few years back and they advertised big money around 85k per year but as someone else stated that wasn't the base. Their base pay was average for ambulance work... not good for remote locations and double-wide living albiet company provided.

Good money if you worked extra days (25 to 28) per month which means little time off. My wife vetoed it since the nearest Walmart was 50 miles from Kayenta and she heard the res life is not kind to pale-faces.

 

[414Flyer]

Yeah it can be good money and a relatively easy job if you are fine spending a whole lot of time in Chinle or Kayenta. If you wanted to have 10 days off a time each month for a nice vacation and still make good money, well not so much then.

I think they have played fast and loose with their job ads for some time. They should just put out there what it is. A lot of people are not going to want to go to Kayenta and spend an entire month there, giving up there days off. At least in Saudi we had a bar in the compound...

 

[surveypilot]

Any ideas on the base pay? ( I assume that would be a 20on/10 off schedule from the other posts I have read.)

Talked to them a few years back and they advertised big money around 85k per year but as someone else stated that wasn't the base. Their base pay was average for ambulance work... not good for remote locations and double-wide living albiet company provided.

Good money if you worked extra days (25 to 28) per month which means little time off. My wife vetoed it since the nearest Walmart was 50 miles from Kayenta and she heard the res life is not kind to pale-faces.

Yeah it can be good money and a relatively easy job if you are fine spending a whole lot of time in Chinle or Kayenta. If you wanted to have 10 days off a time each month for a nice vacation and still make good money, well not so much then.

I think they have played fast and loose with their job ads for some time. They should just put out there what it is. A lot of people are not going to want to go to Kayenta and spend an entire month there, giving up there days off. At least in Saudi we had a bar in the compound...

 

[414Flyer]

I am not sure what they base pay is now, in 2005 working 20 days a month would come out to about 50k. It required working 25 days a month to hit the 63k they advertised, and then that would leave you with 5 days a month off, which is hardly enough since its a better part of a day off just to go somewhere.

I think they have a base in Alamosa now, which would be more tolerable. Alamosa is about one of the coldest places in the country though in the winter.

 

[CUBMAN]

Did anybody mention violations or loss of aircraft and crew?

 

[sqwkvfr]

Did anybody mention...loss of aircraft and crew?

I don't want it to seem as if I'm standing up for anyone here, but that crash was completely the PIC's fault.

Was there another?

 

[414Flyer]

They had other incidents before, that could have easily resulted in loss of crew. They used to have a chief pilot, who was really a super nice guy, but with some questionable judgement and that made some really bad decisions. Thats been 7-8 years ago however.

I do not think they are an unsafe company, but they do not have the best reputation. Whether deserved or undeserved, well thats debatable.

 

[surveypilot]

Thanks for the information guys. I guess I did not need it anyway. They sent me a rejection email this afternoon. The funny thing is that they called me out of the blue two weeks ago and asked me to apply. Then when I did, the only correspondence that I received back was the rejection email today. Certainly a strange way to do business.

 

[avbug]

Their reputation is very well deserved. Lock, stock, and barrel.

 

[jergar999]

Did anybody mention violations or loss of aircraft and crew?

Were they the folks that had the crash in Steamboat last winter (or the winter before)?