Dont come to Jetblue if you have a family

[Smarta$$]

That's not just crazy, that's Jetblue crazy! As for the medical benefits, you can thank Obama.

Give me a break. Total BS. These healthcare changes have been a national trend for more than a decade, in all industries and many local governments. My father in law is a fire chief for a large city. They changed to a JetBlue style health plan 4 years ago. I suppose that was Obama's fault also.

 

[BentOver]

But that's the GateWay bridge program with Embry Riddle, Cape Air, and JetBlue. An applicant at ERAU in the GateWay program interviews at Cape Air, and Jetblue, then flies for several years at Cape Air, then gets a class date at JetBlue.

I applied to JB in 2010 with 7000 mostly jet hours.. Large number of recs. and no blemishes on my record... Couldn't even get invited to an open house.... Having some sort of Bridge Program with Cape Air where a guy in a recip gets a class date is pretty strange when there are lots of qualified guys still outta work.. My bet is they know the Cape Air guy #1 isn't going anywhere soon, and #2 isn't going to bitch about medical, because "hey, it beats Cape Air or another regional".....

JB would have saved my family alot of frustration and life altering adjustments.. But hey, since when does experience matter over someone willing to take it in the rear for years just because they're happy to be in a jet with cool computer screens

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Why do we, as pilots, take our single examples and extrapolate that out to the whole system?

"I didn't get hired, so they must not be hiring anyone with xxx experience..."

Maybe you didn't get hired because one if your recs was on a S list somewhere? Maybe you just got unlucky?

 

[ArmadilloJackal]

Almost everyone I fly with was a Captain at one of the regionals, had good recs, and are a pleasure to fly with. They are good guys and gals who I wouldn't be surprised to see leave when the majors start hiring.

 

[mejorgy]

Reserves being flown more.. Company plan is to have the reserve fly 65 hours per month that way you can still have a buffer for irops but nevr make premium pay.


Been on Reserve for 6 years on the bus, broke guarantee once.....have not noticed any increase in being flown

JG...That is because you are a salty old dog who has been around the block. You should know, the grey hair and expanding waistline don`t come without a price to pay ;-) Merry Christmas and my regards to the family.......

 

[Baronman]

The only thing JetBlue listens to is market forces. When the mass exodus to the majors starts and they can't fill the seats, things will change. Just like in '07. The rest is lip service.

I think you're spot on. In '07 people were turning their noses up....Then turned into the place to be when nobody was hiring. I think they'll catch up once United reaches an agreement and people leave for there.

 

[AAbyDefault]

Mikey,

Lol...you lurker you.....come on you don't like my elastic waistband, have a great holiday!

 

[pilotpayne]

Hotel budget - email the hotel committee

Training center - ask any instructor

Reserves - look at the awards, email the scheduling committee, ask crew services

Premium pay - Look at your PEA, email the 4 previous PVC members who agreed to this along with previous comp and benefits committee members appointed by Jetblue. Their names are all over the message boards.

I did as you asked and sent an email to a few of the guys I know at OSC, they all say that the instructor pay is still the same and it was just a rumor. As for the reserve thing, I will let you know when I break 65, doubt it will be anytime soon. Also with over 25 trips in 190 fo opentime in BOS feel free to pick something up and get that extra pay and maybe I can get a long call day. We have things to fix here, but you guys do not help by telling lies. You like facts so much try to stick to them.

 

[clickclickboom]

Payne,

Have you been completely blind in the last 3 years?


Nobody making lies here


Healthcare? check

pay? check

Premium? check


Compensation review failing timelines every year ? check

compensation review going forward being cancelled by management? check

OOH did i mention the 300% increase in healthcare on jan 1?

retirement fix? 5+3=13? check

 

[Splert]

900% increase on crew care 3 to the new orange plan.

 

[Ski-N-Fly]

If only there was a way to stand up for ourselves and actually negotiate health benefits, work rules, retirement, etc, etc. Got representation? Your boss certainly does.

 

[pilotyip]

If only there was a way to stand up for ourselves and actually negotiate health benefits, work rules, retirement, etc, etc. Got representation? Your boss certainly does.

did wonders for the Hostess workers

 

[Splert]

did wonders for the Hostess workers

Welcome to Kindergarden Logic 001A: the DR did wonders for SkyBus, VA or toys.com or pets.com, etc.

 

[BentOver]

Why do we, as pilots, take our single examples and extrapolate that out to the whole system?

"I didn't get hired, so they must not be hiring anyone with xxx experience..."

Maybe you didn't get hired because one if your recs was on a S list somewhere? Maybe you just got unlucky?

Not complaining about not getting interviewed... complaining about how with all the people out there (in general, not myself), who are furloughed, have spent 10 years in an RJ's, have loads of military/airline experience etc.... have trouble getting interviewed at a deteriorating place like JB, but then they'll start a bridge program with a place like Cape Air that allows generally much less experienced guys a way in.

To me that screams of JB wanting to fill their roster with guys who will not be going anywhere anytime soon, and who will be happy becasue it's better than their last gig.

I ended up landing a great job, so JB not working out was a blessing in disguise. But for all the other guys wanting to get to JB, it sucks for them that they may be "too experienced" to be successful at JB.

I followed JB from their start up days. Back 6+ years ago it was very uncommon to hear so many complaints about JB....

But I do agree that a very plausible scenario in my case was a rec being on someones S list. I believe they were going through a Union drive last time I applied a few years ago. And I'm fairly certain some of my recs may have been vocal drive leaders.

 

[Lake Alice]

I did as you asked and sent an email to a few of the guys I know at OSC, they all say that the instructor pay is still the same and it was just a rumor. As for the reserve thing, I will let you know when I break 65, doubt it will be anytime soon. Also with over 25 trips in 190 fo opentime in BOS feel free to pick something up and get that extra pay and maybe I can get a long call day. We have things to fix here, but you guys do not help by telling lies. You like facts so much try to stick to them.

You misunderstood my post. I was suggesting you do what you did. Ask questions.