Does ATC get pissed???

[Kream926]

When I was the only one in the pattern, sometimes i'd get "cleared for the option until further notice"

user youll know what im talkin about


i got one of these one time doing my night currency

i got a cleared to land any runaway untill further notice, i was the only one and winds were calm


took off 1L to a kinda left base for 13 s&g to a right downwind for 1R then did a left pattern back to 1L.

some of the guys in the tower are nice to talk to when no one is around

when i did all my night solo stuff in the pattern i would be the only one on freq untill the top of each hour. he'd get hella busy then we'd be back to our convos. someday i wanna meet those people before my reign <sp> in oklahoma is over

 

[minitour]

The exception is if the tower has some local procedure that you should follow. For example, if it is SOP to report midfield or "abeam the numbers", then you should do that. How do I know if this airport has a local procedure? You'll be instructed by the tower, usually on the first trip around the pattern.

...that was exactly my point.

-mini

 

[Vector4fun]

Really, it depends on the Tower. At my facility, I've got three DBRITEs and a CONRAC in the Tower cab. If the radar's working, I KNOW where you are in the pattern. If I need a report, I'll ask for one, otherwise, there's simply no reason for you to report each downwind or base.

On the other hand, at a small tower without any BRITE or other radar display, it's very easy to loose sight of a white Cherokee in the haze, (especially if you're flying a Boeing sized pattern), and it's a good idea to have the pilot report midfield downwind or each base so you keep situational awareness in the Tower.

Student pilots seldom irritate me if I know they are one. It's the 50 yr old guy in the Baron who still doesn't know how to operate VFR at a controlled field that puts an edge in my voice....

 

[Laxman]

Its also SA for fellow pilots. If I know where you are based on your radio call, helps me find you in a hurry if I need to look for you cause I think you are going to be a conflict.

 

[User546]

user youll know what im talkin about

You mean that's still used as an active runway?!!? I better stop using that as a taxi-in to the ramp!

Two years of flying in and out of that airport, I've never seen or heard that runway being used! Well, next time I come head to head with you on that runway, I'll wave excitedly, knowing its ole Kream aboard!

 

[TurboS7]

Believe ATC when they tell you something. A few years ago I was landing at CSG with a 727-200 full with football player, fans, friends, and cheerleaders. I turned about a 3 mile final to follow a Baron on a mile final. The Baron was getting instruction and the flight instructor was handling the radios. The tower told him that they needed to land and turn off at X intersection traffic on short final. The Baron replied they would try but since they were cleared to land they technically had the whole runway to use. The tower again requested that they land and turn off at X intersection. The Baron replied that they would try but noted that the whole runway was theirs. They landed and missed the intersection, then they proceeded to do a 180 degree turn to taxi back to the intersection. At that point the controller go real mad, I was already spooling up my engines as I knew I was going to have to go around. When the Baron finished the 180 on the runway his windshield was full of a 727 all lights on and a lot of black smoke as I was spooling up for the go around. The Baron taxied off the runway through the ditch and to the nearest taxiway. We all laughed as the controller chewed out the instructor pilot, had they even continued to the end there would have been plenty of room, but no "the runway was all theirs-technically???"

 

[Vector4fun]

Ha ha, good thing that you were spooling up. I learned real early not to count on a 727 going around from short final without some warning! I always answer the city owns the runway, and I schedule it's use...


I also should have added, regarding my original post, that the kind of radar display matters as well. I have an ARTS keyboard associated with every DBRITE. But some small towers just have a small display; some with alphanumerics, (tags), some without. Some will have a keyboard so they can initiate tracks and modify tags, some won't.

 

[Kream926]

You mean that's still used as an active runway?!!? I better stop using that as a taxi-in to the ramp!

what 13/31??

they use it from time to time

i think i used it a couple of times as the only runway

 

[User546]

what 13/31?? they use it from time to time. i think i used it a couple of times as the only runway

Yea 13/31. I had to actually get out the airport diagram to note what runway that was, cause I had never thought about it before.

That 2,800 ft runway doesn't do us a whole lot of good! We're landing either north or south, stiff crosswind or not!

 

[Kream926]

the planes i fly can land nicely in a 600-700 foot strip