DL/NWA Seniority List Integration Arbitration starts TODAY...article

[PuffDriver]

You're OBVIOUSLY referring to the deteriorating financials at DAL compared to NWA pre merger announcement. We weren't going to bring that up, but since YOU did....

Go ahead and bring it up. I have given creedence to NWA financials. Unfortunately, this is not a game of one BK carrier vs a non-bk carrier. We are both viable carriers. Job-wiser, which IS the relevant discussion since the financials balance each other out, there is a stark contrast that should and will be reflected in the seniority list--including pay disparity before and after although you think that it is inadmissable.

I see your back after being driven away in shame.

 

[123]

MD-88's only have about 10 years left in them (per our fleet plan)
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Is there a plan to replace these airplanes at DAL? How many are there, something like 120?

This is a serious question, no flaming.

Thanks,

 

[FDJ2]

Is there a plan to replace these airplanes at DAL? How many are there, something like 120?

This is a serious question, no flaming.

Thanks,

Orders for 12 737-700/800, options for 60, rolling options for 120.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

FDJ2 and Puff,

In all seriousness it appears that delta would be way better off just pulling out of this aquistion and waiting the short time it will take for nw to go TU. Again, don't tell me it can't be stopped. The money people behind this would back out if they knew you guys(all delta employees, not just pilots) were firmly against this merger. This will not work without all employees pulling the same direction. You could pick up the pacific route authority and not have anything to do with the bitter employees and old aircraft. You were so successful in the campaign against usair merger. Why not the level of backlash against this one? For that matter I have not heard any official dalpa or other employee negativism towards this merger unlike the usair.

DAL: Revenue for latest 12 months: $20.2 billion
Debt: $10.9 billion
Unrestricted cash and short-term investments: $3.2 billion

NWA: Revenue for latest 12 months: $13.2 billion
Debt: $9.9 billion
Unrestricted cash and short-term investments: $3.2 billion

$9.9B in debt with only $13.2 billion in revenue to service it. DAL has $1B more debt but $7B more revenue to service it.

 

[123]

Orders for 12 737-700/800, options for 60, rolling options for 120.

I had heard that 30 or so of the 737 orders were already sold to someone else. Is that true? Also, do you know how the rolling options work meaning, are there tentative dates in the manufacturing line for them or do they get are they at the end of the line whenever the order is confirmed.

Thanks.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

Is the financing already in place? If so, great. Just like the 18 787s. And options don't count right? At least that is what I read about our 50 787 options.

Orders for 12 737-700/800, options for 60, rolling options for 120.

 

[FDJ2]

I had heard that 30 or so of the 737 orders were already sold to someone else. Is that true? Also, do you know how the rolling options work meaning, are there tentative dates in the manufacturing line for them or do they get are they at the end of the line whenever the order is confirmed.

Thanks.

From our last 10K filing, we had orders for 40 737-800 and 10 737-700s, 38 800s were presold, so the sum of 737s on order is 12.

Aircraft options have scheduled delivery slots, while rolling options replace options and are assigned delivery slots as options expire or are exercised.

 

[123]

Thanks FDJ2.

 

[FDJ2]

FDJ2 and Puff,

In all seriousness it appears that delta would be way better off just pulling out of this aquistion and waiting the short time it will take for nw to go TU.

Cobra, in all seriousness, no airline is healthy in this environment. Both DAL and NWA are healthier than most puppies in the airline litter, but it is a very sick litter. Both MECs acknowledge that a merged company will be healthier than either stand alone plan. Both MEC's have endorsed this merger.

 

[FDJ2]

Is the financing already in place? If so, great.

Yes, and we are taking deliveries from our orders.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Go ahead. Each carrier has it's plusses and its minuses, but at the end of the day it is DAL acquiring NWA.

Should that fact influence the construction of the merged seniority list?

Does the methodology of the corporate transaction mean the seniority list must favor one side over the other?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Should that fact influence the construction of the merged seniority list?

Does the methodology of the corporate transaction mean the seniority list must favor one side over the other?

Oh this is rich....Occam is now getting a dose of the DALPA arrogance.....Face it you were acquired...and you fly little DC9s.....:laugh:

 

[DTW320]

Go ahead and bring it up. I have given creedence to NWA financials. Unfortunately, this is not a game of one BK carrier vs a non-bk carrier. We are both viable carriers. Job-wiser, which IS the relevant discussion since the financials balance each other out, there is a stark contrast that should and will be reflected in the seniority list--including pay disparity before and after although you think that it is inadmissable.

I see your back after being driven away in shame.

I'm back? Driven away in shame? HAHAHAHAHAHHA....you are hilarious. Could you be more of a pompous ASS?(don't answer....I'm confident that you can.)Let me guess: your hero is the DAL captain who walked his daughter down the aisle on her wedding day wearing full DAL uniform including the hat(true story).

Hint: It's called having a life outside this pathetic forum.I know I know, you can't imagine such a thing...with all the time you spend sitting under your massive oil portrait of yourself in your clown suit posting on FI....it's hard for you to conceive of someone who doesn't spend all their free time here. How sad for you.

I see your back

Get used to it.....you're going to "see my back" for the rest of your career after the SLI is done!

 

[Occam's Razor]

Oh this is rich....Occam is now getting a dose of the DALPA arrogance.....Face it you were acquired...and you fly little DC9s.....:laugh:

"Arrogance"?

Yet another area where your demonstrated analytical ability screams for some Intellectual Viagra. You're apparently unable to achieve a fully-erect or functional brain.

True arrogance is someone who sues to be placed on the Delta list. This is a disagreement on an important matter by peers. Since you aren't a peer...you should go back to trying to find a date without a valve-stem.

 

[JoeMerchant]

"Arrogance"?

Yet another area where your demonstrated analytical ability screams for some Intellectual Viagra. You're apparently unable to achieve a fully-erect or functional brain.

True arrogance is someone who sues to be placed on the Delta list. This is a disagreement on an important matter by peers. Since you aren't a peer...you should go back to trying to find a date without a valve-stem.

I never sued to be on anyone's list...and I'm d@mn glad I'm not on the bottom of this dysfunctional list....I'd rather watch this one from the bleachers....can someone pass the butter.....:laugh: