glasspilot
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The Medical Cartel: Why are MD Salaries So High?How do they "artificially suppress" admissions?
I have answered, but not directly to you. I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again. Because unions have changed the fabric of the industry, there is no easy answer. Putting a new union into a non- union company though will hurt these pilots rather than help them.
Here is the union issue at its greatest point of destruction for what is fair. Unions have destroyed the freedom of pilots to sell their talents to the highest bidder.
Because unions have modeled seniority as the primary method of promotion within the industry, a pilot is not free to “fire” the company he doesn’t like and freely move to another that provides a working environment matching his skills without paying a high price by losing seniority and pay. This is a union issue, not a free market issue. The rest of us have the option to sell our skills to the highest bidder. Pilots don’t!
Union based airlines are not free to promote or hire Captains based on internal recommendations or by talent to place the best talent in the left seat, the union seniority number is everything. Union based airlines can’t pick and choose the most qualified resumes to fly the equipment. The American way for any company to succeed is to hire and promote the best people and not doing it based on length of seniority.
It is virtually impossible for a pilot to move freely from company to company selling his skills to the highest bidder. Any company would love an opportunity to hire the most qualified individuals and talented pilots to operate their equipment. Because the die has been cast by unions, pilots hiring or promotion from within to make sure the best and brightest are flying the equipment is not possible.
Do I have an answer? Not for the average pilot. Unions have changed the fabric of the industry. The only thing I can suggest is to make your employment decision the best you can and learn to live within the system. What is happening right now at Delta will make it interesting for the rest of the industry. By voting union after union out, it shows that employees believe in the COMPANY and not the union.
Because of management imposed Training Contracts!
Don't give me this Airlines love free markets crap. Braniff? Legend? Predatory pricing to put them out of business and then jack up prices.
People are furloughed has nothing to do with the presence of a union. Neither does a crappy contract. I am sure the Company offered a better deal and the union said , "NO!"
Bob, pre-contract at Flops, there was a program called the Senior Flight Officer program to reward the "best and a brightest" pilots you speak of. Kenn took pay from all of the pilots by paying below market value for the entire roster and gave that pay to a few what you call "the best and the brightest" The problem with the program is one had to routinely "Play Ball" and "go the extra mile" (ie fly broke, tired, over duty, over weight or what ever it took) to be considered into the program and receive the extra pay. There were no set documented rules to qualify for the program because if it was based on flying by the SOP's, FAR's, GOM, POH (ie safe) over 95% of the pilots would qualify.
While I do not like all aspects of the contract, it is still better than what we had and could loose with the stroke of a few buttons on a manager's blackberry. You sir can keep your good ol boy network and perverted management style.
The difference is in the military you don't do it for money. You do it for service to your country. You sign up you are obligated to your country.You are ex-military, are you not?
What is the difference between that and a training contract?
Why was it OK for the military and not a private company?
Please explain, we'd all like to hear it.
The difference is in the military you don't do it for money. You do it for service to your country. You sign up you are obligated to your country.
No, they didn't. You are correct.The benefits for life never factored in, I'm sure.