Did NJI get a raise?

[TCA]

Overtime

After 9 hours we are allowed to work 5 more hours.

The 45 day quarter requirement is not in effect. You still have to exceed 49 days to qualify for an extra day.

 

[Diesel]

no i mean after 9 hours do you get ot upto 14hours? This only applies to if you started your first day before 8am.

The other question is after 12 hours do you get ot to 14hrs?

 

[TCA]

Sorry

I am sorry for confusing the issue with humor....

The answer for overtime is>>>>

The ONLY overtime is the extra day pay policy.

Upon reaching 49 days in a quarter you may get payed extra for each day in excess of 49 days within that quarter....Maybe

 

[gunfyter]

I am sorry for confusing the issue with humor....

The answer for overtime is>>>>

The ONLY overtime is the extra day pay policy.

Upon reaching 49 days in a quarter you may get payed extra for each day in excess of 49 days within that quarter....Maybe

One of you guys posted you only logged 195 hours last yr.

How can you work 49 days a quarter. 196 days/ys and log only 195 hours?

Less than 1 hr per day?

 

[wolfpackpilot]

The other question is after 12 hours do you get ot to 14hrs?

My new Gulfstream has a range of 6700nm. That’s well over 15 hours of flight time (I believe our record is 15:47, VNY to Christchurch, New Zealand). 2 hours to show brief load and get ready; fly 15; 2 hours to clear customs, unload, clean and go to the hotel. 14 hours of rest, and your now legal to do it all over again.

That’s a 19 hour duty day for a 4 pilot crew, and its standard operating procedure. We are currently petitioning the FAA to allow a 3 pilot crew to operate up to 15 hours (4’s a crowd in the G-V). Under your contract the company would have to pay us overtime almost every day we showed up for work, and that’s unrealistic in my opinion.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

One of you guys posted you only logged 195 hours last yr.

Gunfyter,

That was me. I was off a month for a baby (my hips still haven't recovered), and a month for training. Plus I just didn't hit the heavy trips on my rotations. It was not the norm, trust me.

Im serving coffee on the V now, check back with me a few months, Im sure I'll have "much mo" time this year.

 

[Diesel]

you didn't need to yell i was asking a question.

besides how many flights actually last 15 hours. Plus packing 4 people in a GV deserves more than anyone overtime pay.

 

[TCA]

195 Hours a year

195 Hours a year-That maths easys...

1 day airlines. 3 "U-Boat" legs BED/BDL/BAF. 3 rotations a month and there you went....180 hours. Pencil whipped the rest to keep time up in log book.

Hope that helps!!!

 

[wolfpackpilot]

you didn't need to yell i was asking a question.

Was not yelling, didnt notice my font was set on 3. Changed it for ya... is that better?

 

[BengalsFan]

Is there a flow through program from NJA to NJI?

 

[hydrarkt]

My new Gulfstream has a range of 6700nm. That’s well over 15 hours of flight time (I believe our record is 15:47, VNY to Christchurch, New Zealand). Under your contract the company would have to pay us overtime almost every day we showed up for work, and that’s unrealistic in my opinion.

It's unrealistic to pay someone OT for working over 12 hours??? You sir, are a sucker. You are just the type of person that management loves to laugh about.

You remind me of the people that my FO told me about... he told me that he bumped into mid to upper level Wal-Mart managers at a hotel. They were all there for a conference. They were SHARING hotel rooms with other managers who they didn't even know. Some thought that it was ok because it saved the multi billion dollar company a couple hundred bucks... WAKE UP!!!! Management is laughing all the way to the bank about suckers like that.. just because you have no self worth or any idea what your profession and responsibility is worth, don't ruin it for those who know.

 

[Diesel]

It is better thank you.

And i do believe that 4 smelly sweaty guys cramped into a GV tube for 15 hours deserve some OT. But that's just me.

Some people like turkish prisons.

 

[wolfpackpilot]

You sir, are a sucker.

For a GV FO with:

• 2nd year base salary of $73,500
• work less than 6 months/year
• excellent benefits

I'll be a sucker any day.

 

[buttercup]

For a GV FO with:

• 2nd year base salary of $73,500
• work less than 6 months/year
• excellent benefits

I'll be a sucker any day.

73K really isnt good money. Multiply that by 4 and youll be onto something!

 

[Correcting]

Wolfpack,

What you mention ain't bad, but...

7 years with Netjets flying PIC on a Class 1 aircraft:

Making $94,500/year
Already made 3k in OT this year just by showing up for work
All the excellent benefits you mentioned
Work less than 6 months a year
A union contract with workrules

Is being a sucker really that great?