A350 said:32LT10:
A gift? Not likely.
A350
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A350 said:32LT10:
A gift? Not likely.
A350
radarlove said:You don't know the history. UAL was sued and availed itself of a "consent decree", where to avoid further penalties, UAL was to make a proactive effort ("quotas") to right previous wrongs. The previous wrongs included hiring only white, male, ex-military.
To comply, UAL seperated the resumes into three stacks (metaphorically, I think). 1) Military pilots, 2) Civilian pilots, 3) Minority/women pilots.
When it came time to interview 30 applicants, UAL would take ten from pile one, ten from pile two and ten from pile three. Interestingly, pile three was generally empty. I knew a woman pilot who applied at 700 hours, got an interview, busted the sim, then got an unprompted telephone call six months later offering her another chance.
That's how UAL ended up hiring, in the same class, military guys with 1,000 hours, civilian guys with 6,000 hours and minorities with 700 hours.
Air Inc. at the time was tracking what it took to get an interview and the disparities were comical.
Guitar rocker said:Yes, but early on in the 90's, why were the mins at UAL 250TT???? Couldnt they have raised it to ohhhh, lets say 4000TT, ATP, 1000 PIC turbine time maybe??? I think that would have been somewhat more fair to the rest of us.
radarlove said:The good news is, almost all of those quota hires got furloughed so the karma worked out.
Capn Mike said:Just like you paying for your job. You have no idea and you are unbelievable.
More fair? Are you kidding me? Why do you think this lawsuit got filed in the 1st place? Back when UAL was pulling 250 hour TT PPLs off the streets and giving them all their ratings thena job, how many of those were women or minorities? Don't get on here talking about being fair with such a checkerd past. What was fair about certain groups getting the door slammed in their face until about 20 years ago? You have nobody to blame for that type of hiring practice except your mother, your father, grandfather, grandmother, etc............UAL was just doing what was the right thing to do and what was required of them; bring the staffing levels up to where they would have been had they not be so ignorant by overlooking a good set of pilots just because of factors the qualified pilot could not control. Now that's fair.Guitar rocker said:Yes, but early on in the 90's, why were the mins at UAL 250TT???? Couldnt they have raised it to ohhhh, lets say 4000TT, ATP, 1000 PIC turbine time maybe??? I think that would have been somewhat more fair to the rest of us.
Uppercrust said:What ever Capn Tool. Everything that comes out of my mouth is the gospel!:laugh:
HawkerF/O said:More fair? Are you kidding me? Why do you think this lawsuit got filed in the 1st place? Back when UAL was pulling 250 hour TT PPLs off the streets and giving them all their ratings thena job, how many of those were women or minorities? Don't get on here talking about being fair with such a checkerd past. What was fair about certain groups getting the door slammed in their face until about 20 years ago? You have nobody to blame for that type of hiring practice except your mother, your father, grandfather, grandmother, etc............UAL was just doing what was the right thing to do and what was required of them; bring the staffing levels up to where they would have been had they not be so ignorant by overlooking a good set of pilots just because of factors the qualified pilot could not control. Now that's fair.