DHL to shut down US Domestic Ops Jan 30

[abxaviator]

K, check your PM.

 

[OrionFE]

Bummer! Good luck guys.

 

[727Niteflyer]

Cappy will be hiring probably about the beginning of the year after the 2nd 75 gets up and running. Good luck.

 

[ke4lir]

K, check your PM.

Was that for me? If so did not get a PM. If not disregard.

 

[727Niteflyer]

Oh I forgot cappy and ati are shutting down as soon as abx does because we cant survive on bax and military contracts.

 

[EuroWheenie]

To answer an earlier question, international shipments to/from the US are carried by a number of carriers. Trans-atlantic is done by Lufthansa Cargo, World Airways and (to small extent) Kalitta. Trans-pac is done by NWA Cargo and Polar - with the NWA contract set to terminate in the near future. The future will also bring DHL Air UK new-build B767-300ER freighters, which will take over the LH/WOA trans-atlantic flights in due course. There's 3 767 coming next year, with a further 3 on order for 2010 (2) and 2011 (1).

Oh, and the hub won't be ILN as far as I've heard; it'll be CVG. Domestic US flying will, as soon as the UPS deal is officially declared dead, but done by the lowest bidder. Since DHL got a rather large investment in ASTAR, they'd be the obvious choice. But, they're flying the wrong aeroplanes! ABX got the right aircraft (B767 with large cargo-doors), BUT there's little love lost between ABX and DHL. So, who knows what'll happen.

 

[abxaviator]

DHL's "investment" in ASTAR was written off in their financials last year.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Oh, and the hub won't be ILN as far as I've heard; it'll be CVG. Domestic US flying will, as soon as the UPS deal is officially declared dead, but done by the lowest bidder. Since DHL got a rather large investment in ASTAR, they'd be the obvious choice. But, they're flying the wrong aeroplanes! ABX got the right aircraft (B767 with large cargo-doors), BUT there's little love lost between ABX and DHL. So, who knows what'll happen.

The hub will likely be SDF. That is what we are hearing anyway.

Just heard today that the UPS agreement is signed and will be announced soon.

 

[mxer]

Where did you hear that?

 

[hvydriver]

Probably a crew van driver in SDF.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Aren't van drivers the most accurate source of info?

Actually, our union is still telling us the deal is on.

 

[EuroWheenie]

You may be right, Bob. Suffice to say that the rumours this side of the atlantic talk about the UPS deal being dead.

As for the investment, it may have been written off, but as a loss; DHL still holds a large amount of equity in ASTAR - worthless or not.

 

[abxaviator]

Bob has been saying it's a done deal for quite some time.

 

[Bob Dylan]

You may be right, Bob. Suffice to say that the rumours this side of the atlantic talk about the UPS deal being dead.

As for the investment, it may have been written off, but as a loss; DHL still holds a large amount of equity in ASTAR - worthless or not.

I'm not really claiming to be right about anything. I just wanted to put it out there that we are still being told that the deal is still on here at brown.

We'll see.

 

[mxer]

I'm just going by the loads. Can't be a lot of money in hauling around containers of oxygen. Most of the customer switched to UPS after the first idiotic announcement. The remainder are moving their accounts now. Not a lot left to worry about having a contract for. If DHL gets out of the US domestic business, there isn't any reason left for the deal.

 

[TWA]

It would be just like DHL to agree to pay ups $1B/yr for just the international stuff, regardless of volume.

 

[727Niteflyer]

I dont know how many aircraft astar is flying but when we were doing contract for dhl in cvg I seem to remember about 20 72's, a number of 8's, and about 5 a300s. If DHL is planning on returning to what they use to do wouldnt astar still fit in. They still have all 3 types of aircraft, not sure of the numbers.

I also remember alot of contractors, we (cappy) had an airplane for a period, lots of little guys and I think some heavies.

 

[rotor&wing]

I'm not really claiming to be right about anything. I just wanted to put it out there that we are still being told that the deal is still on here at brown.

We'll see.

Funny thing there Bob, your Union has told your members that the deal is stalled.

Guess you missed that one huh?

BTW, your latest album sucks.

 

[Bob Dylan]

Funny thing there Bob, your Union has told your members that the deal is stalled.

Guess you missed that one huh?

BTW, your latest album sucks.

Funny you think you know what the IPA is telling us better than I do. HAHA

Just heard on Friday that the deal is still a go. Just putting that out there. Sorry it pizzes you off so bad, but it is info I thought others would want to hear.

Maybe our union is wrong, but that's what I heard.

BTW, I'm not really Bob Dylan ya know. HAHA. Moron.

 

[rotor&wing]

Funny you think you know what the IPA is telling us better than I do. HAHA

Just heard on Friday that the deal is still a go. Just putting that out there. Sorry it pizzes you off so bad, but it is info I thought others would want to hear.

Maybe our union is wrong, but that's what I heard.

BTW, I'm not really Bob Dylan ya know. HAHA. Moron.

So UPS and your Union is wrong........uh..OK.

Guess they need to consult with you from now on.