Delta: These are the "RAISED Fares"?????

[regionalcap]

I suspect some of it is just a marketing ploy. If you look at the restrictions, it is only for Tuesday, Wednesday, and Saturdays. I agree that it doesn't make sense as a lot of these flights are full.

 

[samballs]

In june, Cak to LAS through ATL price was 89.00 each way. SWA was 199.00 each way from CLE, and this was direct.

 

[SkiFishFly]

CASM are less on the 757's and 767's than AirTran. Delta will be a winner on routes that support that equipment.

Huh? That seems very unlikely. Additionally, are you excluding fuel???

 

[maxblast72]

The 757's and 767's probably have a lower CASM than Airtran's airplanes due to the larger number of seats, but they have trouble nowadays generating a larger RASM domestically. Thus, the general shift over the last few years of the 757/767 from domestic flying to international. I believe Delta's ratio for ASM now is pretty close to 50/50 for domestic vs international (correct if I am wrong GL). Three years ago the ratio was closer to 30/70 favoring domestic.

 

[~~~^~~~]

RASM is actually over 50/50 in favor of international.

Delta's RASM is actually above the industry average now. In the past it had trailed by as much as 15%.

Wow, just looked up AirTran's numbers. Thanks to saving ~$300 an hour on crew costs, they are very competitive. I'm guessing longevity is the biggest difference.

717: (unable to locate)
A320: 6.1
737-700/LR (AAI): 5.0
737-800(DAL): 5.6
757-200 (DAL): 5.4
757-200 (NWA): 6.0
757-300 (NWA): 4.2
767-300: 5.6
A330: 4.3
777: 5.9

* Delta's new seats that put 10 more passengers on board will lower their 737-800 CASM by around 7%, so an apples to apples comparison of Delta v/s AAI on 737's would be 5.2 to 5.0 CASM.

** Delta will get slaughtered on any markets where they run CRJ200's (13.4) or DC9-40/50's (9.5 to 8.8) head to head with AirTran. You can't make money when your costs are 75% to (gulp) 268% higher than your competition's.