Delta TA passes 62-38. 94% voted

[redflyer65]

And you bought your type

Bye Bye----General Lee

That's all you got?

Enjoy your weak contract when the 90 seats aren't 'profitable' next time. You know exactly how they are going to spin that. And DALPA will sell it again.

I'm suprised you bought off on this one General. At first you knew better, then you talked yourself into it. Just wait until the next go around.

 

[Scoot 11]

That's all you got?

Enjoy your weak contract when the 90 seats aren't 'profitable' next time. You know exactly how they are going to spin that. And DALPA will sell it again.

And that's all you got. You're a bitter little troll on the bottom of the SW seniority list who's now behind 1700 Air Tran pilots, who DIDN'T have to buy their jobs there. Sucks to be you!

I'm suprised you bought off on this one General. At first you knew better, then you talked yourself into it. Just wait until the next go around.

I'm surprised you're so infatuated with anything DL. Guess you didn't get hired. Good thing SW is pay for training, so you were able to get in the door there. Now go hug an Air Tran pilot, they're all senior to you.:laugh:

 

[General Lee]

That's all you got?

Enjoy your weak contract when the 90 seats aren't 'profitable' next time. You know exactly how they are going to spin that. And DALPA will sell it again.

I'm suprised you bought off on this one General. At first you knew better, then you talked yourself into it. Just wait until the next go around.

Trust me, I got a lot more. But stagnation will be your own biggest problem, and LBB layovers.

Please try to repair your own crushed "family" before you try to harp on other "problems" that actually turned out to be a good deal. You'll probably never understand, it's your third time in SMF today and you're delirious.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

Well, we all knew it was coming.
Delta is a widebody airline- its really all they care about.

Thanks to the many at DALPA who know the damage they just did-
And thank you to the yes voters who continue to provide me the motivation to work my business- further proof that pilots will always take the easy road and fail to support their own career.

As for southwest comments- I apologize to all my peers for dragging the Swa name into this. I honestly tried not to, but the apologists cant not do that. But be proud, Swapa is now the UNDISPUTED standard bearer for the industry.
There is a big difference between voting for your own pay- and voting to expand the whipsaw market where other pilots who will have no vote, and no leverage, will have to scrap out their living.
The good news is that there are fewer and fewer who choose to enter this profession, as they know they will be sold out.

That's the legacy of DALPA as the ALPA leaders in outsourcing: the next generation of pilots will have a worse career and choose to do something different.

Congratulations on the gains- as there are some- but be ashamed of the expansion of LARGE RJ's. The timing couldn't be worse- and the weakness couldn't be greater in that regard.

You are what we thought you were.

SELLOUTS.

 

[PCL_128]

You're a bitter little troll on the bottom of the SW seniority list who's now behind 1700 Air Tran pilots, who DIDN'T have to buy their jobs there. Sucks to be you!

I wish that were true, but sadly, it's not. He's ahead of hundreds of AirTran pilots who were hired long before he was. I don't think you understand just how much we got screwed on that seniority integration.

 

[SplitBar]

I wish that were true, but sadly, it's not. He's ahead of hundreds of AirTran pilots who were hired long before he was. I don't think you understand just how much we got screwed on that seniority integration.

And you were a Gulfstream pay to play guy right? Hand over your 717's and move on.

 

[General Lee]

And that's all you got. You're a bitter little troll on the bottom of the SW seniority list who's now behind 1700 Air Tran pilots, who DIDN'T have to buy their jobs there. Sucks to be you!


I'm surprised you're so infatuated with anything DL. Guess you didn't get hired. Good thing SW is pay for training, so you were able to get in the door there. Now go hug an Air Tran pilot, they're all senior to you.:laugh:

Scoot,

That is a hillarious avatar. Thanks for that! Do you think Redflyer is mad guys senior to him now that currently fly the 717 will get their SWA 737 type for free? His face is probably RED a lot.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Well, we all knew it was coming.
Delta is a widebody airline- its really all they care about.

Thanks to the many at DALPA who know the damage they just did-
And thank you to the yes voters who continue to provide me the motivation to work my business- further proof that pilots will always take the easy road and fail to support their own career.

As for southwest comments- I apologize to all my peers for dragging the Swa name into this. I honestly tried not to, but the apologists cant not do that. But be proud, Swapa is now the UNDISPUTED standard bearer for the industry.
There is a big difference between voting for your own pay- and voting to expand the whipsaw market where other pilots who will have no vote, and no leverage, will have to scrap out their living.
The good news is that there are fewer and fewer who choose to enter this profession, as they know they will be sold out.

That's the legacy of DALPA as the ALPA leaders in outsourcing: the next generation of pilots will have a worse career and choose to do something different.

Congratulations on the gains- as there are some- but be ashamed of the expansion of LARGE RJ's. The timing couldn't be worse- and the weakness couldn't be greater in that regard.

You are what we thought you were.

SELLOUTS.

Wait, we got 88 717s in the deal. Those aren't widebodies. We also got rid of more than 200 50 seaters and gained a better domestic ratio of flying over DCI. But, you forgot about that too.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Hamfighter]

Good or bad, C2K12 is behind us. So what's next? Hawaiian? Piece of American?
Something big (besides the 717's and Lar-J's).

 

[Scoot 11]

Scoot,

That is a hillarious avatar. Thanks for that! Do you think Redflyer is mad guys senior to him now that currently fly the 717 will get their SWA 737 type for free? His face is probably RED a lot.



Bye Bye---General Lee

I firmly believe Redflyer is the result of a drunken night at a bar where numerous tequila shots were consumed before he was conceived. His obvious DL pilot dad, and barmaid mom probably to this day still don't talk, hence his obsession with ANYTHING Delta. It would actually be sad if it wasn't so funny!:laugh:

 

[waveflyer]

I didn't forget general- and I congratulated you on partly winning a battle DALPA should have won in 1992. Today's battle is about large RJs, and delta mgmt offered just enough to reload the whipsaw market. Just like they offered just enough in 1992 to get you to sign off on 50's.
You've learned nothing about the long term. Congrats on the short term gains- enjoy them- they aren't worth expanding your large RJ fleet. Period. No more excuses.

 

[ATRCA]

DAL lowered the bar today. That scope section is awful!

 

[nimtz]

DAL lowered the bar today. That scope section is awful!

Yep and numbnuts like GL only needed one ALPA roadshow spin special to think otherwise. BAH BAH BAH!

 

[Phrogs4ever]

For those of you who keep focusing on the 76 seat issue, you just can't get it through your head that you have just allowed 90 seat airframes to be flown by regionals. You are now only one bankruptcy away from gutting your small narrow body flying. Ask 1,400 United pilots how that worked out for them. You rolled the dice, good luck.

Unfortunately, that will also make the scope battle at United that much more difficult. Oh well, here comes the first NO vote.

 

[DDAY]

This contract is money in my pocket, looking at an additional $1300 a month as reserve 73N FO, starting tomorrow! Then another 8.5% raise in Jan 2013. We start hiring this Nov. Plus an early out with Medical being offered this July. Mom Delta gets to tie off loose ends and look to the future w/out lingering negotiations impairing her vision. Good for the team, good for scope and good for me.... I'm retired military and will only be around 14 years so for me it works. Remember, it ain't personal, it's just business.

 

[Dizel8]

I think this might force APA's hand.

We sure are getting close to that 100 seat mark!

 

[dicko]

Swapa is now the UNDISPUTED standard bearer - voting to expand the whipsaw market where other pilots who will have no vote, and no leverage, will have to scrap out their living.


SELLOUTS.

Good post wave. Perhaps it's time for SWAPA to reconsider supporting a whipsaw and B Scale at their own airline.

 

[Rough67]

You are what we thought you were.

SELLOUTS.

Hey toughguy .. Make sure you tell that to the next Delta crew when you jumpseat.

 

[Dizel8]

Hey toughguy .. Make sure you tell that to the next Delta crew when you jumpseat.

I certainly wouldn't mind asking about it, respectfully mind you, but the only part of Delta I ever get to see is a contract carrier, as in Shuttle America.

 

[Freebrd]

Hey Diesel-9 did you fly the Thud? Love that WW pic man! Bad ass machine.