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[ACL65PILOT]

I don't think anyone would be surprised by the reaction. Scope is becoming the proverbial third rail. This is a different pilot group than a decade ago, when the number priority was protecting the DB and fluffing the FAEs at all costs. We have a great deal more experience and information on the negative effect outsourcing has, not only on the careers of Delta pilots, but the industry as a whole. Outsourcing flying to regional airlines who don't have the structure, the ability and in some cases the desire to improve their contracts is corrosive to the profession and undermines the careers of the mainline pilots.

This point was not made for the audience intra-Delta. It was made in the macro sense. There are many on this board that think we will fold up, at the first hint of scope pressure.
In fact, most people I talk to here at DAL realize that DCI above 76 seats it a total non-starter. That goes for rank and file pilots as well as their bosses, and their bosses boss, all the way up the line.

It does not means they will not ask, they just know the answer prior to the question being asked.

 

[JohnDoe]

If Moak gives ANY relief, he should be RECALLED!!!!!

Seems to me that if he hasn't been by now, he never will be.

I know, I know....."But NEXT time will be different. People will really be fed up. Blah blah."

 

[Schwanker]

There is a limit and currently the company cannot get any more. If one inch of this is given, I think that many will be very surprised by the reaction of this group! The pilots over here have had enough.

Does that include DAL-S as well? I'm not so certain of Gomer's priorities down there in Mayberry.

Schwanker

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Does that include DAL-S as well? I'm not so certain of Gomer's priorities down there in Mayberry.

Schwanker

I hear ya. Fact is that for now none are on order, and the company "states" they do not want more. I want to see it in writing.

I am hoping that there are bigger fish to fry.......

We actually have a very motivated group. Lots of people running that are aware and well versed in this issue.

 

[FBN0223]

If Moak gives ANY relief, he should be RECALLED!!!!!

He should be recalled BEFORE he gives away flying.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

-Scope won't help cure what the hell is wrong with you, Gen. You are just a mess.

Scope won't wash that nasty taste out of your mouth after your $5 favors, tanker/crj!

 

[Moustache]

Scope won't wash that nasty taste out of your mouth after your $5 favors, tanker/crj!

Your wit is unmatched!

 

[Texx]

He should be recalled BEFORE he gives away flying.

He's working on Praters position. He's tired of riding around in a Crown Vic....He wants the Town Car in DC. He's also trying to get support from some of the DCI boys. The flow through stuff.

 

[WayBack]

Sounds like more flying for the regionals.

 

[roadrunner]

I agree that the line in the sand has been drawn. DL pilots won't give another inch on scope. Even the 50 yr old captains I fly with understand the importance of not outsourcing any more flying.

 

[400ADude]

Sounds like more flying for the regionals.

Yeah thats the Delta way.

 

[filejw]

I agree that the line in the sand has been drawn. DL pilots won't give another inch on scope. Even the 50 yr old captains I fly with understand the importance of not outsourcing any more flying.

I'm in the top 300 and I'll second that.. we aren't giving up anymore scope....I've been watching this for 30 plus years if it says's Delta it should be flown by Delta pilots..

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I'm in the top 300 and I'll second that.. we aren't giving up anymore scope....I've been watching this for 30 plus years if it says's Delta it should be flown by Delta pilots..

+12200

Not sure I can find more than a 100 pilots here at DAL that will disagree with that.

 

[WayBack]

Yeah thats the Delta way.

All Delta Connection pilots should send those mainline pilots Christmas cards this year, thanking them for the extra flying.

 

[Ridgeback]

I hear ya. Fact is that for now none are on order

Fact is Northwest has purchased options fro 96 additional CRJ900's. Options are not free...