Delta rumor?

[ACL65PILOT]

Funny. I know noting.

 

[FlyinPiker]

Well ol Dougy just got done saying they we're not going to reduce anymore capacity over at Airways. Of course the devil is always in the details, I'd have to re-read it. Maybe it was that they were not going to reduce for the rest of 2009 or maybe the delivery of new A-330's balances it out.

190's though? That's a curveball. Do we really need them? I suppose if it's a sweet deal then why not.

It does fall into the current clues:

1. Would not effect senior guys mulling over bowing out early

2. Could possibly lead to hiring in the next 18 months (though I think we'd all agree that is not likely).

3. Would help junior guys sleep a little better at night.


The LGA terminal makes since though I have no idea if it's possible.

Airways probably only uses a 1/3 of their current gates anyway...the rest lead to stairs which lead to the ramp to board one of their many commuter flights. I would think our current terminal would accomidate them just fine...espeacially with Comair row and all.

But the clues haven't really mentioned much about facilities, more so something to do airplanes & pilots.

Interestingly enough they all seem to center around Airways though.

Will not be surprised to see the 15th come and go though. I'm gonna have to try and pick up a trip that day to keep myself away from the computer.

 

[~~~^~~~]

I for one doubt the US Air rumors any further than a possible gate swap if US Air could not pay the rent.

Just consider, if US Air can't make money with cheap labor, how could Delta?

How much money losing business does Delta want to acquire? I think they have their hands full already.

 

[deadstick]

I will make two guesses.
1. What fly4hire said.
or
2. What Ed said with the exception of the 190/195s will go to compass with a further relaxation of our scope and a sales job by dalpa on how they got a unlimited flow down "guaranteed" and the nwa call in honest program.

I'd say the 190s would to Midwest to counter AAI. NWA figured that an AAI hub in MKE would cost them billions in lost revenue. Why else would BB only take 2 unless more were coming?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I cannot see us buying jets directly from LCC. There would be to many opportunities there for issues.

 

[Fubijaakr]

IF there is something in the winds, it will surely be something no one on this board has contemplated.

 

[slinky]

I floated the Idea of hiring a whole bunch of Chek strippers as replacements for the FA's. Do wonders for pilot morale and the pax would love it

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I floated the Idea of hiring a whole bunch of Chek strippers as replacements for the FA's. Do wonders for pilot morale and the pax would love it

That would be awesome!

 

[FlyinPiker]

I'd say the 190s would to Midwest to counter AAI. NWA figured that an AAI hub in MKE would cost them billions in lost revenue. Why else would BB only take 2 unless more were coming?

Good point! Where's the rest of these 190 orders? They've already said the 717 is on it's way out but have not announced how these replacement aircraft are coming in.

I don't see how this is in anyway good news for us though unless somehow these 190's are being bought by Republic/Shuttle America/etc,etc. and then we are buying the 175's off of Shuttle.

The Shuttle America 175's (newly modified right?) would join the Compass lot and then all of them are would be stapled to DAL.

Sounding very complicated. But in this decade we've seen a lot of crazy sh*t go down and anything is possible.

It's not the first time I've heard of Republic being interested in buying/operating LCC's 190's....hell they bought all of their 170's once upon a time.

A lot of things line up.

 

[~~~^~~~]

IF there is something in the winds, it will surely be something no one on this board has contemplated.

Yeah, something crazy, like this:

SYDNEY, July 13 (Reuters) - Australian airline Virgin Blue Holdings (VBA.AX) called a halt to trade in its shares on Monday, pending an announcement. It gave no more details.

The Sydney Morning Herald said in an unsourced report on Monday that Virgin was poised to raise up to A$400 million ($312 million) to bolster its balance sheet and cement its recently struck partnership with Delta Air Lines (DAL.N). [ID:nSYU006818] (Reporting by Mark Bendeich) ($1=1.284 Australian Dollar)

We have heard from ALPA some sort of new code share deal was negotiated and is in the works.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Good point! Where's the rest of these 190 orders? They've already said the 717 is on it's way out but have not announced how these replacement aircraft are coming in.

I don't see how this is in anyway good news for us though unless somehow these 190's are being bought by Republic/Shuttle America/etc,etc. and then we are buying the 175's off of Shuttle.

The Shuttle America 175's (newly modified right?) would join the Compass lot and then all of them are would be stapled to DAL.

Sounding very complicated. But in this decade we've seen a lot of crazy sh*t go down and anything is possible.

It's not the first time I've heard of Republic being interested in buying/operating LCC's 190's....hell they bought all of their 170's once upon a time.

A lot of things line up.

Some of that makes sense. It would be a good way to avoid a grievance over the mods.

 

[Fly4hire]

Well ol Dougy just got done saying they we're not going to reduce anymore capacity over at Airways. Of course the devil is always in the details,r.

He said not reduce domestic capacity.

My guess for the 15th is N side gets over 200 prips and has to award positions instead of displace and DALPA is suddenly interested in an early AE

 

[FlyinPiker]

Screw the 190's and all of that...that just complicates things and makes everything sound far fetched although I do think Republic is up to something and we haven't seen the last of their surprises.




I'll keep my guess simple: That either Compass (as is) or Compass with additional Shuttle America -175's join the ranks as DAL pilots.

It's inevitable that they will be eventually furloughing some of us in the next 24 months. There is no other way around the mess that will occur with all of the flow up/flow down's.

Management might as well bite the bullet now. I don't see much use for Compass as a whipsaw anyway.

Compass was always basically a forced way to get mainline pilots to fly a mainline replacement aircraft for regional rates. They got what they wanted either way.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

I heard Republic was interested in buying Delta

 

[TNPILOT]

It's out...

Red Delta Fa dresses now available up to size 30.

 

[Tanker Clown]

I hear that Delta is going to start an airline within the airline. They will find the gayest paint schemes possible and give it an even gayer name. They are going to call it Song, and there is no chance it will miss!

 

[Scope out RJ's]

I hear that Delta is going to start an airline within the airline. They will find the gayest paint schemes possible and give it an even gayer name. They are going to call it Song, and there is no chance it will miss!

Since they're going gay, maybe they could name it tanker clown/crj567!
Isn't it time for the colonel's afternoon coffee?

 

[BrickTop]

Ok I'm going to be an A$$hole again and state what a bunch of B&#$TT Delta is pulling with these continued capacity cuts. All this airline does is cut more capacity and put more people on the street and cover their frontline impact with quirky statements like: "While the challenges of the current environment preclude us from making guarantees, our goal remains to avoid any involuntary furloughs of front line employees."
And justifying their reductions with malarkey like : "On top of this, cost pressures from rising jet fuel prices up more than 20% since the start of the year — coupled with softer travel demand due to the spread of the H1N1 virus, have created a difficult business environment," the executives said in their memo to employees.

Have these people even been to a terminal and seen the hideous amount of overbooking and slammed terminals that signify air travel demand is still respectably high. With fuel prices down significantly from last year and the already in place reductions they still stand to generate a PROFIT in 2009 and 2010. The H1N1 nonsense is was 3 months ago and most areas of the world impacted by it have returned to regular service. This merger has benefited No One except the MGMNT team and their balance sheet. Unbelievable. Either I am completely oblivious to to severity of our industry's condition or there are an unspeakable number of corporate jacka$$es that can't see any further than the coffee room from their $25,000 office chair. What justifies all of this reduction week after week. I think Delta has reduced nearly 25% of it total capacity over the last year domestic and INTL. Just enrages me....

 

[jester757]

Not including the LAX domestic to international displacement/AE, there will be less than 100 surplus in this next bid. What does that mean... NO furloughs. That also includes an additional five percent draw down from next year's peak summer flying.

 

[Diesel-9]

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