Delta rumor?

[patrickdc9]

I keep hearing that Delta is planning some big announcement next week (the 14th maybe). I'm hoping it's not another capacity reduction with impending furloughs. Some guys are saying that we may have gotten a good deal on some A330 aircraft that another carrier canceled on. I'm sure this wouldn't be a net gain in aircraft but rather it would mean parking more 747-400 or 767 aircraft.

Anyone have any intel?

 

[General Lee]

I keep hearing that Delta is planning some big announcement next week (the 14th maybe). I'm hoping it's not another capacity reduction with impending furloughs. Some guys are saying that we may have gotten a good deal on some A330 aircraft that another carrier canceled on. I'm sure this wouldn't be a net gain in aircraft but rather it would mean parking more 747-400 or 767 aircraft.

Anyone have any intel?

Well, according to our VP of FLt Ops (S.D.) in the latest Flight Ops update: although they "can never completely take furloughs off the table, we are not furloughing pilots at this time nor are we likely to in the near future." He also stated we would likely have a displacement in August. (I have heard mainly 767 A and B positions and moving domestic seats to ER) As far as 744s go, I have heard we will park 5 for the Fall and Winter, and bring them back in the Spring. I have heard rumors about A330s (10 maybe?) from MX people.

Only other rumors I have heard recently:

764s to JFK, A330s to ATL/LAX, SEA 76ER base, DC9s to ATL, A320s to SLC and CVG, MD88/MD90s to MSP, General Lee Chief Pilot MEM, CRJ567 lead Lav Dumper Minot


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[bizicmo]

Merger with us airways. heard it here first.

 

[nwaredtail]

I keep hearing that Delta is planning some big announcement next week (the 14th maybe). I'm hoping it's not another capacity reduction with impending furloughs. Some guys are saying that we may have gotten a good deal on some A330 aircraft that another carrier canceled on. I'm sure this wouldn't be a net gain in aircraft but rather it would mean parking more 747-400 or 767 aircraft.

Anyone have any intel?

Yes, but not telling. Relax.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Merger with us airways. heard it here first.

Not exactly.

 

[michael707767]

Merger with us airways. heard it here first.

I am hearing parts of USAir are on the block. So maybe not far off.

 

[poppi]

Merger with us airways. heard it here first.

and last

 

[gutshotdraw]

Buyout of Alaska. Just sayin'

 

[Diesel-9]

DFW 787 base. Have heard chatter again about the 10-12 A-330's Uncle Richard has pursued. He has loved the aircraft for a long time. Probably just a small announcement about a/c re-deployment to different bases.

 

[clippyrip]

As I understand it, it will be more beneficial to the younger pilots than the older(close to retirement) ones and we will all move up some seniority numbers. My guess, Compass gets on the list or something to that degree.

If someone actually knows, please PM me, I wont tell.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

As I understand it, it will be more beneficial to the younger pilots than the older(close to retirement) ones and we will all move up some seniority numbers. My guess, Compass gets on the list or something to that degree.

If someone actually knows, please PM me, I wont tell.

The first part of what you say is more along the lines of what I would consider true.

However, don't hold your breath on a cpz staple- although I really wish it were a near future possibility. The closest possibility is something along the usair lines....

 

[Fly4hire]

Not holding my breath for anything - every "big announcement" since I've been in this biz for the last 15 yrs has been either a non-event, or usually bad news perfumed. Reference anything with USAir there has been no news of anything on their side (press, web chatter) and Parker stated as of last week that they are having no further capacity reductions. Standing buy for nothing with baited breath, just like I have for every other "big announcement". One can always hope......

 

[anewunion]

Taking over the U.S Airways terminal at LGA. Something to do with the Port Authority and the last Bankruptcy judgement.

 

[EdTeachLives!]

Best tea leaf analysis on current info.

An asset purchase.

Partial to full fleet of e190/5 a/c.

Positions offered to current LCC pilots as a staple iaw ALPA v. USAPA differences and ALPA policy.

Not enough takers, then offered to furloughed LCC. Still not enough, then filled on Delta side. Possible integration with CZ. TBD.

LGA considertations as well? Don't know.

-Ed

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Better to wait and see what it actually announced as what some are inferring is serious business with serious implications.
Asset purchases are a bid deal. If they were going to buy jets, I would venture to be that the pilots would come with them. That would not bode well for a newly integrated Delta.
If you think or know this, you are violating SEC regulations by posting it. This kind of banter would most definitely affect stock prices. My advice button up!

 

[Furloughed80]

Taking over the U.S Airways terminal at LGA. Something to do with the Port Authority and the last Bankruptcy judgement.

Taking it over from who. CAL owns and leases those gates to US Airways.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

I will make two guesses.
1. What fly4hire said.
or
2. What Ed said with the exception of the 190/195s will go to compass with a further relaxation of our scope and a sales job by dalpa on how they got a unlimited flow down "guaranteed" and the nwa call in honest program.

 

[EdTeachLives!]

Chillax ACL.

OK? First, tell me exactly how it would be violating regulations of the SEC if one thought this? Obviously if you knew this and posted it, that would be bad. Martha Stewart bad.

Again. Tea leaf reading. Educated guess. Strategery. Nothing more.

It is game theory. Know the players and their motivations and one can gain an insight to their predicted actions and behavior.

ACL....I am just predicting off information you have posted here.

-Ed

Disclaimer: Previous posted scenario is an educated, or, uneducated guess only. Take it for entertainment value only.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

And I was just stating that if someone acted on those rumors the SEC could in effect launch an investigation in to insider trading.

If it is a guess, great. I think all of them are possible in this environment. There are opportunities galore for those with money.
My point was that people could act upon a guess or rumor, of buying jets etc from another carrier that is not doing well. That is the serious business I am referring to.
Noting more nothing less. I know that I am glad we were not bought by LCC!

 

[clippyrip]

For those of guessing its sounds like were getting warm.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Funny. I know noting.

 

[FlyinPiker]

Well ol Dougy just got done saying they we're not going to reduce anymore capacity over at Airways. Of course the devil is always in the details, I'd have to re-read it. Maybe it was that they were not going to reduce for the rest of 2009 or maybe the delivery of new A-330's balances it out.

190's though? That's a curveball. Do we really need them? I suppose if it's a sweet deal then why not.

It does fall into the current clues:

1. Would not effect senior guys mulling over bowing out early

2. Could possibly lead to hiring in the next 18 months (though I think we'd all agree that is not likely).

3. Would help junior guys sleep a little better at night.


The LGA terminal makes since though I have no idea if it's possible.

Airways probably only uses a 1/3 of their current gates anyway...the rest lead to stairs which lead to the ramp to board one of their many commuter flights. I would think our current terminal would accomidate them just fine...espeacially with Comair row and all.

But the clues haven't really mentioned much about facilities, more so something to do airplanes & pilots.

Interestingly enough they all seem to center around Airways though.

Will not be surprised to see the 15th come and go though. I'm gonna have to try and pick up a trip that day to keep myself away from the computer.

 

[~~~^~~~]

I for one doubt the US Air rumors any further than a possible gate swap if US Air could not pay the rent.

Just consider, if US Air can't make money with cheap labor, how could Delta?

How much money losing business does Delta want to acquire? I think they have their hands full already.

 

[deadstick]

I will make two guesses.
1. What fly4hire said.
or
2. What Ed said with the exception of the 190/195s will go to compass with a further relaxation of our scope and a sales job by dalpa on how they got a unlimited flow down "guaranteed" and the nwa call in honest program.

I'd say the 190s would to Midwest to counter AAI. NWA figured that an AAI hub in MKE would cost them billions in lost revenue. Why else would BB only take 2 unless more were coming?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I cannot see us buying jets directly from LCC. There would be to many opportunities there for issues.

 

[Fubijaakr]

IF there is something in the winds, it will surely be something no one on this board has contemplated.

 

[slinky]

I floated the Idea of hiring a whole bunch of Chek strippers as replacements for the FA's. Do wonders for pilot morale and the pax would love it

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I floated the Idea of hiring a whole bunch of Chek strippers as replacements for the FA's. Do wonders for pilot morale and the pax would love it

That would be awesome!

 

[FlyinPiker]

I'd say the 190s would to Midwest to counter AAI. NWA figured that an AAI hub in MKE would cost them billions in lost revenue. Why else would BB only take 2 unless more were coming?

Good point! Where's the rest of these 190 orders? They've already said the 717 is on it's way out but have not announced how these replacement aircraft are coming in.

I don't see how this is in anyway good news for us though unless somehow these 190's are being bought by Republic/Shuttle America/etc,etc. and then we are buying the 175's off of Shuttle.

The Shuttle America 175's (newly modified right?) would join the Compass lot and then all of them are would be stapled to DAL.

Sounding very complicated. But in this decade we've seen a lot of crazy sh*t go down and anything is possible.

It's not the first time I've heard of Republic being interested in buying/operating LCC's 190's....hell they bought all of their 170's once upon a time.

A lot of things line up.

 

[~~~^~~~]

IF there is something in the winds, it will surely be something no one on this board has contemplated.

Yeah, something crazy, like this:

SYDNEY, July 13 (Reuters) - Australian airline Virgin Blue Holdings (VBA.AX) called a halt to trade in its shares on Monday, pending an announcement. It gave no more details.

The Sydney Morning Herald said in an unsourced report on Monday that Virgin was poised to raise up to A$400 million ($312 million) to bolster its balance sheet and cement its recently struck partnership with Delta Air Lines (DAL.N). [ID:nSYU006818] (Reporting by Mark Bendeich) ($1=1.284 Australian Dollar)

We have heard from ALPA some sort of new code share deal was negotiated and is in the works.