Delta RFP on 10-20 widebodies maybe coming in next 2-3 years--article

[redflyer65]

You really need to come up with some new schtick! This is played out. If you want to call anyone a "sellout," look no further than the mirror, Mr. "pay for training." The southwest pukes with their pay for training requirement, and introduction of the support of "age 65" has killed this industry more than anyone. But then, stagnation is your payback, bitch!

That's great Scoot. When you are waiting in line for takeoff, just remember those larger RJs in front of you are flown at regional rates by regional pilots. The same size planes you guys used to fly less than 5 years ago. Enjoy that!





Disclaimer: Southwest has no RJs.

 

[General Lee]

That's great Scoot. When you are waiting in line for takeoff, just remember those larger RJs in front of you are flown at regional rates by regional pilots. The same size planes you guys used to fly less than 5 years ago. Enjoy that!





Disclaimer: Southwest has no RJs.

Those large RJs were just bumped down to cover outgoing 50 seaters. Your 717s (ironically the size of DC9s you said our 76 seaters are replacing) are in turn covering for the 76 seaters. That's called recapturing flying. Isn't that what we SHOULD be doing? You were complaining that we gave it away, yet now, thanks to your 717s, we're taking it back! A move in the right direction....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

You really need to come up with some new schtick! This is played out. If you want to call anyone a "sellout," look no further than the mirror, Mr. "pay for training." The southwest pukes with their pay for training requirement, and introduction of the support of "age 65" has killed this industry more than anyone. But then, stagnation is your payback, bitch!

Just making sure you guys know what the industry thinks of you. We didnt forget. No need to puff out that double breast and act cocky- you aren't the best job in the industry and you've done quite a bit of damage.
A year later- it isn't forgotten-
You aren't USAPA- but you don't have a good track record-

So no acting cool on the van- we don't think you're cool, we don't care if you don't talk or thumb your noses up at anyone- you just look like an idiot when you do considering who you are and what you've voted for

 

[General Lee]

Just making sure you guys know what the industry thinks of you. We didnt forget. No need to puff out that double breast and act cocky- you aren't the best job in the industry and you've done quite a bit of damage.
A year later- it isn't forgotten-
You aren't USAPA- but you don't have a good track record-

So no acting cool on the van- we don't think you're cool, we don't care if you don't talk or thumb your noses up at anyone- you just look like an idiot when you do considering who you are and what you've voted for

Way too harsh Wave. We voted on a better contract that raised wages, tightened scope (INTL and domestic (AK)), and provided a way to reduce overall RJs while ensuring mainline to recapture routes that were lost to RJs before, and now will be mainline again with 717s. The 76 seaters were already out there, owned by other companies as well as DL (can't just take those over when owned by someone else on contracts with mainline).


You guys continue to pay for your training on the SWA side, and treated the AT people horribly, totally avoiding fair arbitration. We don't expect you guys to understand a lot on that topic anyway, your management stepped in and you avoided it. We'll have to see how the affected group feels about that in the future, but needless to say it may affect that "luving" feeling you think everyone has. Like Elvis, it may have left the building.... And that's not good. But hey, I still can't wait to see you or any SWA crew in the van on my next layover, in Stuttgart.



Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[waveflyer]

In 10 years it'll either be too harsh or not nearly harsh enough

 

[waveflyer]

In 10 years it'll either be too harsh or not nearly harsh enough

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

I am so glad this site allows ignoring idiots like Wave......

 

[General Lee]

In 10 years it'll either be too harsh or not nearly harsh enough

For us or you guys?


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[Muskycat]

I am so glad this site allows ignoring idiots like Wave......

Ditto

 

[PBRstreetgang]

OOOOOOOPS, scratch that.....






Oh well, there you have it....its official, I am an idiot!


Bye Bye---General Lee

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[waveflyer]

For us or you guys?


Bye Bye---General Lee

Us?

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SWA doesn't outsource and our group saw fit to nip it before it ever got a foothold- learning the lesson that delta didn't -

That's too big an airplane to have outsourced GL..

But thanks for quoting me so coward bill will know what I said-
He has to ignore me though so he can continue believing everyone is envious of him and the sellout DALPA pilots-

God I can't wait til this boomer generation dies off - have they left anything at all that's better for the next generation ?

 

[General Lee]

Us?

.......

SWA doesn't outsource and our group saw fit to nip it before it ever got a foothold- learning the lesson that delta didn't -

That's too big an airplane to have outsourced GL..

But thanks for quoting me so coward bill will know what I said-
He has to ignore me though so he can continue believing everyone is envious of him and the sellout DALPA pilots-

God I can't wait til this boomer generation dies off - have they left anything at all that's better for the next generation ?

Wave,

You guys gave away 17 cities that AT will no longer be serving thanks to your merger. That's ok, DL will use YOUR 717s to those communities and more, and TAKE BACK current routes that are used by CR9s now, which will in turn cover outgoing 50 seat routes. You fail to acknowledge any of that. Recapturing routes is a GOOD thing, for the next generation especially. Acknowledge that, and you will feel better....


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[dalad]

Us?

.......

SWA doesn't outsource and our group saw fit to nip it before it ever got a foothold- learning the lesson that delta didn't -

That's too big an airplane to have outsourced GL..

But thanks for quoting me so coward bill will know what I said-
He has to ignore me though so he can continue believing everyone is envious of him and the sellout DALPA pilots-

God I can't wait til this boomer generation dies off - have they left anything at all that's better for the next generation ?

Says the SCAB who elected to outsource himself. Filthy piece of garbage.

 

[waveflyer]

I'm a scab?

Do you know the definition?

I never got a vote in outsourcing. I didn't fly an RJ for my old legacy- so what are you talking about? That your way of projecting what was your responsibility onto someone else. Oh I know- All other rj pilots and i should have just quit flying

Whatever, take responsibility for your vote.

Mainline delta pilots had a say in outsourcing and got convinced to outsource in the 90's-then voted to reload it again, while not in bankruptcy, just when financial pressures were mounting on the 50's-

They don't care that they get rid many more 50-seaters now than -900's they pick up. Now that precedent is set, they'll just complicate the issue again and know you'll vote to allow more -900's again- bc what's another 20% more -900's when this contract gives me so much, and besides, they're already outsourced.

Piss off delta. You guys suck and I would never work for you or any other legacy. But keep chasing that carrot-

Post some more articles about widebodies you MIGHT get GL- you're still a sellout

 

[General Lee]

I'm a scab?

Do you know the definition?

I never got a vote in outsourcing. I didn't fly an RJ for my old legacy- so what are you talking about? That your way of projecting what was your responsibility onto someone else. Oh I know- All other rj pilots and i should have just quit flying

Whatever, take responsibility for your vote.

Mainline delta pilots had a say in outsourcing and got convinced to outsource in the 90's-then voted to reload it again, while not in bankruptcy, just when financial pressures were mounting on the 50's-

They don't care that they get rid many more 50-seaters now than -900's they pick up. Now that precedent is set, they'll just complicate the issue again and know you'll vote to allow more -900's again- bc what's another 20% more -900's when this contract gives me so much, and besides, they're already outsourced.

Piss off delta. You guys suck and I would never work for you or any other legacy. But keep chasing that carrot-

Post some more articles about widebodies you MIGHT get GL- you're still a sellout

Come on Wave, you sold out by paying for your training. Sure, people pay for ratings everyday, but not at this level. Your airline could easily afford paying for training (they are doing it for AT 717 pilots who have never flown the 737), but you elected to do it yourself. You didn't have to, and at this level it should be shunned.

If you want to keep going, then let's talk about your company's treatment of the AT guys. I can easily get into that morass, and it is a shame also. A sellout doesn't try to "do the right thing." This latest contract recaptured DCI flying that was thought "lost." Not anymore. You still can't seem to see that those extra CR9s are covering OUTGOING 50 seaters. That means bigger planes on routes that saw smaller ones that didn't make money with higher oil. Then, add 717s to CURRENT CR9 or E170 routes. That is called GENIUS. You can't seem to understand that concept, still. It is GOOD for us. More CR9s that cover outgoing planes, and even MORE 717s (more than the number of new 76 seaters) to cover them. Wow, what a concept. 140 RJs leaving total, and 88 717s recapturing routes, thanks to you guys. Thanks!


Bye Bye---General Lee