Delta receives approval to exceed pilot flight time limits.

[ferlo]

Jesus Christ is this thread stupid!! If DAL pilots had any control over anything, wouldn't you think they'd still have a pension?? If you take a paycheck, you've handed over control. This is just one more nail in the coffin of this "professions" dignity. Let it go, just because this dude who calls himself the F--king "General" is apparently delusional enough to think that the pilots of any airline are influential, doesn't make it so. Pilots couldn't summon the collective strength to change the brand of non dairy creamer served on the airplane let along duty limits. We're hourly labor...time for a reality check.

 

[General Lee]

Jesus Christ is this thread stupid!! If DAL pilots had any control over anything, wouldn't you think they'd still have a pension?? If you take a paycheck, you've handed over control. This is just one more nail in the coffin of this "professions" dignity. Let it go, just because this dude who calls himself the F--king "General" is apparently delusional enough to think that the pilots of any airline are influential, doesn't make it so. Pilots couldn't summon the collective strength to change the brand of non dairy creamer served on the airplane let along duty limits. We're hourly labor...time for a reality check.

Wow, take a chill pill. I was explaining how we asked for a 5th pilot due to the time enroute, and Delta asked the FAA for a clarification, since nobody has flown over 16 hours nonstop as a US carrier. The FAA said 17 hours nonstop was good for 4 pilots. We protested, but that was that.

And, the reason my name is General Lee is because of the car on Dukes of Hazzard. You need to take a vacation in Jamaica and smoke some weed.... Luckily we fly there, and it doesn't take over 16 hours...


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[EWR_FO]

CAL does Delhi to EWR in just under 16 hours. Convenient?

I have never seen it go over 16 hours, even with the abortion that is ATC in India.

 

[General Lee]

I have never seen it go over 16 hours, even with the abortion that is ATC in India.

That is why you haven't had to ask about going over 16 hours. Mumbai is a bit farther, and it is blocked at 16:20 back to JFK. We had to get clarification, and the FAA gave it to us.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[EWR_FO]

That is why you haven't had to ask about going over 16 hours. Mumbai is a bit farther, and it is blocked at 16:20 back to JFK. We had to get clarification, and the FAA gave it to us.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Do you have a duty time limitation in your contract? Ours is 18 hours internationally, so if they want to fly to Mumbai it will come very close to that. When it's that close, one little hiccup shuts it down.

 

[ultrarunner]

Not that I'm for it, but 17-hour legs equals about 4 legs a month....

Huck, I was thinking the same thing. Two of these a month and you're done, three at the most! And some of the folks will green-slip these trips...so they'll make plenty of bucks. Lets see, each RT is prly what, 50 hrs away from base? That's two days work, x 2 or 3 times a month. Prly not a bad gig.

 

[stupidpilot]

Geez! What a bunch of whiners! I fly a 3 holer 11 plus hours all the time and its no big deal! Just a little nappypoo while on the tracks and I'm fresh for another 11 hour leg.(tongue firmly planted in cheek.)

 

[007]

This new rule will help the furloughs to come back...NOT........... I am so sick of this industry. Maybe I can go work for Skywest and be a B-scale Delta pilot.

 

[Spectre]

This industry sure has its twist and turns, and now it's absolutely hillarious to see the General trying to shine a different light on the subject of crew flight time duty... "Oh, but you don't know half the story" Right General, the story is your airline just got approved by the FAA to exceed 8 hours. Maybe you can thank Jetblue for that, heheh...

...Now Delta just has to make sure was it the local FAA office or the national FAA office that approved this?

 

[ultrarunner]

Just fly it at .82 instead of .80. There's your 20 minutes!

 

[DIAMONDDD]

Just fly it at .82 instead of .82. There's your 20 minutes!

Sometimes the BEST ideas are right there in front of ya, aren't they?

 

[ultrarunner]

Sometimes the BEST ideas are right there in front of ya, aren't they?

opps. .82 vs. .80! ;

 

[DIAMONDDD]

opps. .82 vs. .80! ;

I know it was a type. Just bustin' your "boys". : )

 

[ultrarunner]

I knew you were diamonddd ;-)

 

[Spooky 2]

opps. .82 vs. .80! ;

Probably flying it at .83 just like all the the other 777's in the world. As a small point of order, when Delta flew the MD11 from KLAx to VHHH it was scheduled for 15:45 in the winter and frequently flew in excess of 16:00 if it made it non-stop. If not with a tech stop in RTCP it was anybody's guess on the total time.