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Well General ,Fins is right! You and your MEC continue to shoot yourself in the foot instead of bolstering what you can do best....100+ seat flying. If the push is to International why are you so hung up on what feeds that flying?

You would do better to relax scope and tighten the other end! Isn't that where you wanna be?

Stop and think for a minute..what do you really want to fight for....if you want to scope something try CODE SHARE! :angryfire
 
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ALPA making a move to scope and transfer flying to their "preferred" pilots after having been sued over the issue is like someone accused of theft, robbing a little old lady, on camera.



ok, tell me what flying would be transferred from one group to another. Delta pilots have the contractual rights to any aircraft over 70 seats right now. We have proposed to negotiate a pay rate for aircraft above 70 seats. There is nothing in either sides proposal to take aircraft from you and give them to us. Now, if you want to argue that if the Delta pilots end up flying a 79 seat aircraft you may lose some 70 or 50 seat aircraft, well, so be it. I don't remember you being to concerned about us losing 737s as your CRJ50 and 70 flying was exploding.

For you in particular, you really have no argument about it. You are not owned by Delta anymore. There is nothing stopping you or ASA from going out tomorrow and doing the same thing Independence did.......buy some Airbusses and go it alone. You don't like the aircraft you are flying, complain to Skywest management, not the Delta pilots.
 
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ASA new hire training went from 40 a month to zero very recently as a direct result of direction (or lack of direction) from their neighbors three blocks east on Virginia Avenue.
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I can't believe you wrote something as stupid as this....How many mainline jobs were shed to promote the growth of ASA/CMR. Go back to kissing the butts of the rjdc leadership. Your hypocricy reeks!
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My friend at ASA (Yeah, I know one) told me that ASA will go from 32 to 40 newhires a month in Jan, and they are EXPECTING new longer CRJs. (meatier, thicker, jucier) (Sounds like that Cialis ad)


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
I think management is going to get everything they want and you guys are hosed. If you do strike then the party is over.

So your only choice will be if you want to fly 100 seats for 88 an hour or if your ego gets in the way and it's given to the regionals.
 
CFIT said:
I think management is going to get everything they want and you guys are hosed. If you do strike then the party is over.

So your only choice will be if you want to fly 100 seats for 88 an hour or if your ego gets in the way and it's given to the regionals.

The problem here is that we need to actually see that they will fly 100 seaters at mainline. They can have a pay rate, and then never get the plane. We have a 737-700 and a 737-900 pay rate, and have yet to see those planes. Get it? We want something in writing that states we will fly those. I think the rates will go a bit higher, but still be less than our current 105 seater, the 732.

And, there are PLENTY of people that ride this gravy train--GE, AMEX, all of our management people, that do not want this train to stop. I think there will be an agreement before a strike, and it will be for less than they are currently asking for. Parking 400 planes overnight will hurt the State of Georgia (probably leaning on Delta execs daily), GE's lease rates would dive, and AMEX has over 25 MILLION SkyMiles members. You don't think they are watching this? Do yo think they care if we get better sick leave provisions? I doubt it. Do you think they care who flies a 100 seater? They want this thing to keep going.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
surplus1 said:
General,

I understand that you have "Comair" on the brain but, you need to edit that post and replace Comair with ASA.

For the record, Fins is an ASA pilot.

Are you serious? I have already known that for how many years now? 5. Come on, I know where Fins flies. What I was stating is that Delta obviously want to chop rates at Mainline and the regionals, and it is only a matter of time before SkyWest, his new owner, tries to give them the shaft too. You really didn't think I knew where Fins flies? Come on my friend.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
spinproof said:
Well General ,Fins is right! You and your MEC continue to shoot yourself in the foot instead of bolstering what you can do best....100+ seat flying. If the push is to International why are you so hung up on what feeds that flying?

You would do better to relax scope and tighten the other end! Isn't that where you wanna be?

Stop and think for a minute..what do you really want to fight for....if you want to scope something try CODE SHARE! :angryfire

We really need to make sure we get the 100 seat flying first. We can get a pay rate, but that doesn't mean we would see any of the flying. I think DCI should have more 70 seaters to replace the older 50 seaters, though.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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ASA new hire training went from 40 a month to zero very recently as a direct result of direction (or lack of direction) from their neighbors three blocks east on Virginia Avenue.
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Feel lucky, it could be -400 like your RJDC co-plantifs.

And of course it is in Delta's control. They decide where the feed comes mainline/DCI/AeroMexico whatever.
 

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