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okay idiots, and you know who you are. The vast majority of pilots flying "outsourced jobs" do not want to fly where we are. It is not our fault this crap of an industry is the way it is. When I made my plans, served on Active duty (Army) for 7 years to get the GI bill and save for flying, then went to school-the plan was to flight instruct-work at a regional for a couple/three/four years and then go to a National or Major airline. I have been stuck here for 9 years now and now I have to hear from IDIOTS that I am the problem for taking your jobs. Get a life you idiots. Why don't you go to your precious Flight managers and HR idiots who are coming up with plans to hire low time **************************************** right out of flight schools and bypass those of us with experience. Prime example is Delta who cancelled the flow for hundreds of Mesaba guys because they want to "select better candidates to be Delta pilots". How idiotic, we fly planes painted in Delta colors, Delta Passengers and are not allowed to say...."welcome aboard this flight operated by.....". All so they can make deals with flight schools to hire low time people!

If these unions (alpa and any other pilot group who has "outsourced flying") had any honor or sense of unity or fairness (but instead they are self serving mainly to the senior folk) they would grab those jobs back along with the pilots. I am just saying.....
 
So scoot-
Any chance we can make a wager on the crj-1000?
My bet is you have them outsourced before 2020
 
No wife man- and the girls I date are free to do whatever- bc so am I.
But good try.
Nope- the selling out is enough to justify my thoughts on delta.

So you don't think you guys will boil the frog and sell out 1000's by 2020??
Probably by 2017 or 2018-
But I'm sure PCL will come to your rescue and lay into me :
"they aren't 1000's!!! Well, they are, but they're scope limited to 85 seats! Mainline CAN'T fly 85 seats!"
 
Ok, then it was your sister.I'm sure the men in your life are fine with what you do:blush:
No matter what happens, with your infatuation with Delta, I'm sure you'll be right along to tell the world just how smart you are, and how ********************ed up we are.
 
Wrong again
Not a hater- a career at delta is one of the best passenger flying careers in the world -
I just think this generation of DALPA retirees has failed in their leadership role from 1992- present.
Imagine that- baby boomers making entitled, short sighted, selfish decisions that ultimately hurt everyone including them.
Say it isn't so....:rolleyes:
 
And as for the homophobic slam-
Don't ask, don't care. It's not a slam to me, -people are who they are and I want them to be free and comfortable with that- I just happen to be straight- so try again on that one too.
Maybe if you head down to the alma mater in Norman, some of my frat brothers might think its funny...
But probably not- generation thing, you know.
 
Hey No voters at delta-This ^^^^^ is what you're dealing with-
So embedded in a culture of outsourcing he blames me and all of you that took an outsourced job for the problems with outsourcing- not his own vote.
DTW actually believes he did me a favor.

I already had achieved my goals by that time DTW- I took that job for health insurance - which is a goal I guess
Wave. I know that you seem to have a BIG problem following a logical argument, but let me remind you. YOU "thanked" dalpa for being the first to outsource jets and then posited (with nothing to back it up btw) that college kids are not following us into this career(guess you didn't want to get into the positive Economics 101 implications of that if it's true) Since you "thanked" me for that and since you availed yourself to a job at an "outsourced" company(the grand slam of hypocrisy), I logically said "You're Welcome". Get it?

I wasn't at delta in 92. I was flying for a regional. The majors wouldn't hire me with 1500 hours, so I flew for a regional, got a few thousand PIC and got hired. Outsourced, feed,...whatever. It worked like a charm for me as a stepping stone to the majors....all after 1992...not sure how..guess I (and thousands of others) were just "lucky" since 1992 is when the root of all evil began.

Delta now has block hour ratios with DCI that guarantee a higher % of system flying will be mainline. Now, and even more so with any future growth. Name another pilot group that has turned the tide on regional growth as a % of their company's system flying. Delta will hire as a direct result of that ratio. To those who are doing exactly what most of us (including wavey) did to get here: You're Welcome!:) It's really simple. Why a smart guy such as you doesn't get it is a mystery. Unless......
 
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I fail to see the hipocrisy when someone takes an outsourced job. He didn't make the decision to outsource the job in the first place...DALPA did.

You say 'Name another group that turned the tide on regional growth' when you guys created this from the beginning? Wow. Now the pressure is squarely on AMR and UCAL for larger RJs.

DTW,

This is agreement is a ruse for even larger RJs down the road. As Wave stated, the CRJ 1000 is on the way when Delta throws out a combo....The 900s aren't economical and here's a payraise. I hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't look good. This agreement got you closer to larger RJs, plain and simple. Delta wanted out of the 50s, you just gave them a huge monetary gift to drop them....which they were going to do anyway! Leverage lost.
 

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