Delta Pilots Association-Yes!!!

[xjhawk]

Oh and I must say ALPA is not perfect but just remember that MOST who work for ALPA (and arguably the hardest) are volunteers and are helping you out by fighting the company while they could be at home with their family. I have not been pleased with a lot of things ALPA has done and voice my opinion and fight for what I think should be done (as is my right), but stand behind my union and my reps.

disclaimer-I am pretty bitter that ALPA does not have a solid merger policy in effect. I cannot believe an organization would leave its members at the discression of an arbitrator. I lost about half my seniority in the Mesaba/Pinnacle/colgan merger. Some gained 10% while some lost about that much. Why would ALPA allow a group to lose so much (relative-DOH-longevity-) while giving it to another group? Even my career expectations were not honored. ALPA-you need to have a policy in effect to stop such things from happening. If we all know ALPA's merger policy-then we go into it eyes wide open. As it sits, many of us were stabbed in the back by ALPA's lack of a national policy.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

XJ....welcome to the club.....now get furloughed and a divorce and you are a real airline pilot!

No Merger policy can be a one-size-fits-all. Every one of them will go to an arbiter....no question.

 

[JohnDoe]

The DPA is a miserable failure.

Seems to me a judge just ruled on what a failure alpa is/has been.........

 

[MINIME]

As far as I'm concerned, unions are 50% the people YOU elect and 50% National politics. If the RLA states that you must jump through these hoops, then by God you will have to. If a judge is about to place an unfavorable ruling on your group, there is very little any union can do to defend against that. It's the law of the land.

 

[knowlimits]

Makes me laugh when regional guys harsh on mainline guys for allowing contract flying.

 

[jynxyjericho]

Makes me laugh when regional guys harsh on mainline guys for allowing contract flying.

Hehe, just paying it forward man. Mainline gambled and some of them blame the regional guys for their woes. Anyway, scope is your friend.

 

[Varmint]

Makes me laugh when regional guys harsh on mainline guys for allowing contract flying.

I think most regional guys realize that they would probably be at a major or close to going to a major if the outsourcing had not been allowed in the first place. Whats so funny about that?

 

[1st Rate]

Yeah, that's a good idea...try and form another union right as contract negotiations are coming up. "United We Stand...Divided we fall"

 

[FBN0223]

Yeah, that's a good idea...try and form another union right as contract negotiations are coming up. "United We Stand...Divided we fall"

Keep doing the same thing expecting to see a different result.

Time for a union that represents the Delta pilots exclusively.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Yeah....again dumb timing!

OBTW....How's your DPA money coming in? Rumor has it you skirts are out of cash? Awesome representation!!!!! Good thing a junior F/O got you all into his ponzi scheme.

Nothing to see here people......just a bunch of posers with a Cafepress Sticker and lanyard factory.

 

[Bringupthebird]

DAL should have enough influence in ALPA to affect any change they want. For them, an in-house union is redundant. They already have one - called ALPA!

The membership needs to be more proactive about putting forward a replacement to Lee Moak if he perpetuates the indulgences that ALPA's critics allege.

 

[INIT REF]

I think most regional guys realize that they would probably be at a major or close to going to a major if the outsourcing had not been allowed in the first place. Whats so funny about that?

Those regional guys wouldn't have a job at all if it wasn't for outsourcing, and therefore be unqualified to apply at a major. You can't have your cake (Comair academy grad to RJ pilot career path allowed by outsourcing) and eat it too. (major airline job openings limited by outsourcing)

That's why it's funny to me when RJ guys bellyache about how the mainline guys voted away scope, reducing their ability to move up. It's how you got your job in the first place, dummy.

 

[nerjdriver]

The DPA is a miserable failure. It's taken them a year to get a few thousand cards, and under the law, the cards expire after a year. So, those cards you collected at the beginning are about to start expiring, and then you have to get new cards from the same people again, let alone convincing new lemmings to go along with this crazy scheme. You'll never get the 50% you need just to hold an election, let alone actually win an election. You should end the silliness and focus on getting a new contract.

Typical ALPA arrogance displayed above.

 

[nerjdriver]

Those regional guys wouldn't have a job at all if it wasn't for outsourcing, and therefore be unqualified to apply at a major. You can't have your cake (Comair academy grad to RJ pilot career path allowed by outsourcing) and eat it too. (major airline job openings limited by outsourcing)

That's why it's funny to me when RJ guys bellyache about how the mainline guys voted away scope, reducing their ability to move up. It's how you got your job in the first place, dummy.

Actually..... Stupid..... Many among your ranks were hired in their 20s with less than 1000 hours straight to a "major". Before you sold his job down the river when YOU sold scope for promise of a heavy jet on order to further pump up your ego.

You are completely incorrect. Your ignorance created our situation and you are nor whining like a little girl about it. Get your facts right then bash the regionals you loser.

 

[xjhawk]

Those regional guys wouldn't have a job at all if it wasn't for outsourcing, and therefore be unqualified to apply at a major. You can't have your cake (Comair academy grad to RJ pilot career path allowed by outsourcing) and eat it too. (major airline job openings limited by outsourcing)

That's why it's funny to me when RJ guys bellyache about how the mainline guys voted away scope, reducing their ability to move up. It's how you got your job in the first place, dummy.

So who are you? Are you a military guy who think that is the only way to get to a major? Before the 50-76 seat jet era where did the other half of major pilots come from? It was not the regionals? So therefore......think about it. What many regional pilots are saying is that because of a loss of scope, many regional pilots would be at majors. But then again its a different world and a lot of the smaller airlines like republic, southern....northcentral....many more are no longer around. But I do like the stories of guys who are flying wide body planes now got their major job with 500 hours and a pre signed employment contract..... All I am saying is that I want a job at major and I do not want 100 seat scope to be lost. Stop bashing guys like me who want to leave the regionals.