Delta, Northwest Focus On Joint Pilot Contract

[tbkane]

Puff to correct your post the rj 76 seat airplanes only have to go to 70 seats if I get furloughed again. Currently there are 483 hired with another class starting tomorrow...

 

[737 Pylt]

Don't worry JP......someday you too can be a real airline pilot if you keep working on it....

No he can't! And neither can you. That's why you're stuck at a regional for your life. Your lawsuit failed miserably like your pathetic airline career!:laugh: :laugh:

737

 

[Superpilot92]

They could put a pair of the new lie flat business elite seats and go with a three class configuration :laugh:

I understand the "flow through" Mesaba has only allows the same number that have flowed up to flow back down and NWA has not taken any of the Mesaba pilots. One List is better for mainline pilots too - not that I'm expecting it to happen.

You're right on the 1 for 1 but we have a mesaba flow through guy in class right now so the other part was wrong. There may have been 3 but only one was brought into class and the other 2 were given numbers but will come to class later from what i heard. But there is at least 1 mesaba flow through in class for sure.

 

[comrcap]

That may very well be the case. In Compass' case there is language in the NWA contract that prevents a sale until certain mainline fleet requirements are met. I don't know what restrictions Comair or Mesaba may have. Of course anything can be negotiated.

Comair has no scope. We were raped by our Parent DELTA

 

[FDJ2]

Comair has no scope. We were raped by our Parent DELTA

I believe CMR was acquired in 1999. How many RJs did CMR have in 1999? How many do they have today?

 

[johnsonrod]

Comair has no scope. We were raped by our Parent DELTA

How many Comair CRJs were financed by Delta?

 

[N2264J]

That is not so unusual...Delta even publishes the backgrounds of the pilots in new hire classes and maintains stats that you see copied on the web boards.

Oh, I think it's very unusual, as in odd. Serious question: What's the point for a line captain to log that information when the company publishes everybody's background?

And you're asserting this type of obsessive-complusive behavior is common among Delta captains because they haven't hired in a while? Really, this is just peculiar. Fascinating but strange.

 

[N2264J]

And you know very well that had the CMR MEC introduced a resolution supporting the hiring of DAL furloughs without resigning their seniority numbers that is all it would have taken. Management may not have done it, but the sentiment would have been there...

So empty gestures, pandering, and window dressing is ALPA's answer?

 

[N2264J]

...Since we started hiring, i also keep track of where our new hires are coming from. It ain't rocket science...

On this, we can agree. I think it's more like Rainman.

 

[PuffDriver]

On this, we can agree. I think it's more like Rainman.

The funny thing is that is all you have got. Resulting to calling somebody rainman. I write down flight times, and names for everybody, so as to annotate it into my logbook. Since we started hiring, I also jot down the airlines they came from once I noticed a trend developing.

I wouldn't even have mentioned it, Mr D.O., unless you had brought up the "reason" Delta doesn't seem to be hiring Comair pilots, and seems to be hiring ASA pilots in abundance. You were just ready to make an incorrect, blanket statement that everybody should just take for being true. Well, somebody called you on it, and you got spanked as you should have.

Funny thing about you regional guys is that you can just never admit that you were wrong. I daresay if your leader had, there would be many more Comair new hires in our ranks despite the "overwhelming cost".

Hook, line, sinker

 

[PuffDriver]

So empty gestures, pandering, and window dressing is ALPA's answer?

Deflect, divert, deflect, divert...nothing to see here

 

[737 Pylt]

So empty gestures, pandering, and window dressing is ALPA's answer?

Sure beats filing a lawsuit while trying to steal another airline pilots' seniority off his own list, eh sport? Or is that "CAPTAIN" sport?
How goes that resume polishing sparky?:laugh:

737

 

[PuffDriver]

Oh, I think it's very unusual, as in odd. Serious question: What's the point for a line captain to log that information when the company publishes everybody's background?

And you're asserting this type of obsessive-complusive behavior is common among Delta captains because they haven't hired in a while? Really, this is just peculiar. Fascinating but strange.

Obsessive-compulsive? The point of logging the rotation and time is for logbook records, you know that pesky little thing that keeps track of your time. If a prospective employer ever wants to check, they've got the trip number, the day, and the name of the f/o. Since we started hiring, and with the many new-hires my fleet type flies with, I also jot down their carrier/military affiliation.

Now, not being able to admit when you are wrong, what disease is that? Because you've got it, and I suspect that you may take it all the way to the crash scene someday.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Oh, I think it's very unusual, as in odd. Serious question: What's the point for a line captain to log that information when the company publishes everybody's background?

And you're asserting this type of obsessive-compulsive behavior is common among Delta captains because they haven't hired in a while?

Well... many of the pilots at Delta have interesting and diverse backgrounds... I've met several over the years with Astronaut experience and a few Mach 3+ patches. When they say they attended "The Academy" it usually isn't "Delta Connection Academy."

As for the "Rain Man" type of ability - man don't I wish. I could use a little "Rain Man" action on my type oral

 

[PuffDriver]

Well... many of the pilots at Delta have interesting and diverse backgrounds... I've met several over the years with Astronaut experience and a few Mach 3+ patches. When they say they attended "The Academy" it usually isn't "Delta Connection Academy."

As for the "Rain Man" type of ability - man don't I wish. I could use a little "Rain Man" action on my type oral

Trust me, you won't. It isn't that bad. Every oral I've taken here, I've always felt after that I was WAAAYYYY over prepared.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Sure beats filing a lawsuit while trying to steal another airline pilots' seniority off his own list, eh sport? Or is that "CAPTAIN" sport?
How goes that resume polishing sparky?:laugh:

737

You might want to polish up your own resume sport. Oil's at $100 today and the gub'ment, who bailed you out last time, changed the BK rules.

I bet you'll upgrade at a regional before you upgrade at Delta.

 

[~~~^~~~]

I bet you'll upgrade at a regional before you upgrade at Delta.

OK, you made me laugh that time.

 

[FDJ2]

Deflect, divert, deflect, divert...nothing to see here

He learned that from Dan Ford and the RJDC, that and how to throw in the towel when your lawsuit comes apart like a wet taco.:laugh:

 

[737 Pylt]

You might want to polish up your own resume sport. Oil's at $100 today and the gub'ment, who bailed you out last time, changed the BK rules.

Much like a neutered dog, you just don't get it!
If its not above your 6th grade education, and your desk job allows it, perhaps you should read the bankruptcy laws! Of course you'll have to pull yourself away from your pencil sharpener you little E1 prick!

I bet you'll upgrade at a regional before you upgrade at Delta.

And I'll still be better paid than you!:laugh:

Now, back to the ignore list troll! I hear the Colonel calling for more coffee, now run along boy!

737

 

[Zipperhead]

737 pylt is just pissed cause he knows it's true....too bad you can't handle the truth...

 

[737 Pylt]

737 pylt is just pissed cause he knows it's true....too bad you can't handle the truth...

Thanks zipperfly, but if I wanted your advice I would have given it to ya! Now before you respond, save your breath, you'll need it later for your inflatable date!

737

 

[Zipperhead]

Oh awesome response there dude...obviously you can't handle the truth.

 

[Tanker Clown]

Oh awesome response there dude...obviously you can't handle the truth.

No kidding. This guy is totally bitter. I can understand though. I'd be embarassed if I was a Delta guy. Promised the world. Supposed to have this awsome contract...and then, folded like a cheap suit and making less than an AF guy.

I can tell it bothers him a lot. Too bad. I feel sorry for him....but I didn't make him take concessions.

 

[PuffDriver]

No kidding. This guy is totally bitter. I can understand though. I'd be embarassed if I was a Delta guy. Promised the world. Supposed to have this awsome contract...and then, folded like a cheap suit and making less than an AF guy.

I can tell it bothers him a lot. Too bad. I feel sorry for him....but I didn't make him take concessions.

Perhaps you and the TWA guy are the better men, what with your adolescent need to come on to an anonymous forum and rub it in. First, I don't think a former TWA guy should be giving ANYBODY grief over caving, second, I would submit that neither guy you continue to bash, non-fighter guy, has to worry about every MRI they take. You two are pathetic.

BTW, I guarantee he made more than you last year and this. Go play in your little tanker. When you get out,come over to Delta and I'll teach you to fly the correct way. Idiots.

 

[Zipperhead]

Perhaps you and the TWA guy are the better men, what with your adolescent need to come on to an anonymous forum and rub it in. First, I don't think a former TWA guy should be giving ANYBODY grief over caving, second, I would submit that neither guy you continue to bash, non-fighter guy, has to worry about every MRI they take. You two are pathetic.

BTW, I guarantee he made more than you last year and this. Go play in your little tanker. When you get out,come over to Delta and I'll teach you to fly the correct way. Idiots.

That's right, I'm rubbing it in....yep cause my MEC caved in. Cause you have SOOOO much control over what your MEC does behind closed doors you DOPE. Get a clue you adolescent clown......

 

[737 Pylt]

That's right, I'm rubbing it in....yep cause my MEC caved in. Cause you have SOOOO much control over what your MEC does behind closed doors you DOPE. Get a clue you adolescent clown......

Oh this is rich coming from some twa dufus! Hey sport how'd that mec of yours do during your American liquidation?
Hear that.....Its your boyfriend tanker clown calling you. Maybe the 2 of you can hold hands this time while singing your favorite love songs!:laugh:

737

 

[737 Pylt]

I can tell it bothers him a lot. Too bad. I feel sorry for him....but I didn't make him take concessions.

Hey I didn't give you cancer, yet it doesn't stop you from being a total A'hole! Get back to sharpening pencils private!

737

 

[PCL_128]

Comair pilots who wanted a quid from the Delta MEC in the form of Brand Scope to buy a company policy change and allow Delta furloughees to keep their number?

Lies. JC Lawson (or more accurately, Bill Baker, since JC didn't even have the balls to show his own face at the meeting) didn't ask for "brand scope" at all. He demanded scope concessions on the number of 70-seaters that the feeders were allowed to fly. In return for helping the furloughees, he wanted to increase the number of replacement jets, the very things that were causing the furloughs in the first place.

 

[Zipperhead]

Oh this is rich coming from some twa dufus! Hey sport how'd that mec of yours do during your American liquidation?
Hear that.....Its your boyfriend tanker clown calling you. Maybe the 2 of you can hold hands this time while singing your favorite love songs!:laugh:

737

737 pylt

Man your layovers must be lonely. What a freakin tool you are. To freakin stupid to realize you have no idea what your even talking about. I think i saw your name on the bathroom wall.

I'm sure you have SOOOO much pull and leverage on what your MEC does. Run along now boy and get ready for the A$$raping of a lifetime from the merger. Maybe you'll get lucky and won't have to wear your tugboat uniform anymore. Toot toot....CLOWN

 

[737 Pylt]

737 pylt

Man your layovers must be lonely. What a freakin tool you are. To freakin stupid to realize you have no idea what your even talking about. I think i saw your name on the bathroom wall.

Well, since you're too freaking stupid to insult someone the right way sparky, I'll help you out! I have an idea that you're pretty stupid in the art of negotiations and criticizing anyone else!
My name wasn't on the wall in reference to someone in your family was it?:blush:

'm sure you have SOOOO much pull and leverage on what your MEC does.

Tell m where I said that young man!?
I'll time you with a calander!

Run along now boy and get ready for the A$$raping of a lifetime from the merger.

Well, coming from a twa puke, I bet you sure do know a lot about ass raping, eh? How's that lawsuit coming?

Maybe you'll get lucky and won't have to wear your tugboat uniform anymore. Toot toot....CLOWN

And maybe you'll win your lawsuit!:laugh:
Later tool!

737