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Delta Merger? Only If Lee Moak Says So

By Ted Reed
TheStreet.com Staff Reporter
12/12/2007 6:51 AM EST

ATLANTA -- If there's going to be consolidation in the airline industry, it most likely will have to go right
through Lee Moak, and he's not going to make it easy.

Moak, the powerful chairman of the Delta (DAL - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr) chapter of the Air Line Pilots
Association union, recently discussed mergers before about two dozen Delta pilot union leaders at an Atlanta
hotel.

"Delta pilots are open to it, and we are going to be relevant to the process," he said. "We will be at the
table. We will be involved. And without us, it will not happen." Pilots can ensure a beneficial outcome because
Delta has become the likely "first mover," he noted.

Contrast that with the rest of the industry: American Airlines parent AMR (AMR - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr) and
Northwest (NWA - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr), a likely acquiree, probably won't start the ball rolling.

UAL (UAUA - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr), the owner of United, can't find a partner. U.S. Airways (LCC - Cramer's
Take - Stockpickr) tried to make a deal and failed.

And Continental (CAL - Cramer's Take - Stockpickr) is under the yoke of Northwest, which owns a big stake in its
fellow carrier and can block any bid.

Moak is not a person one would select as an opponent. In his second two-year term as chief of the 7,000-member
local, he is a compelling leader -- tough, rational and calculating. It is a combination not always seen in
union leaders or, for that matter, in airline executives.

At the union meeting, Moak, wearing a starched white shirt, sketched out his view of the industry. An ex-Marine
who is the son of a Marine, he did not hesitate to invoke his Corps pedigree. He also invoked his time as a
Little League coach, indicating his disdain for the prevailing concept that every kid must play, no matter how
good or bad he is.

To Moak, the concept is a metaphor for weakness and whining, which are displayed when pilots complain rather
than act. "We need to improve the pay and working conditions of Delta pilots," he remarked. "We're not about
letting Johnny play, letting Johnny go to bat. We can't do that."
Moak has been willing to partner with Delta executives in times of mutual interest. Most dramatically, he and
former CEO Jerry Grinstein jointly battled a hostile takeover effort by U.S. Airways that began late in 2006.

Pilots were instrumental in assuring Congressional and public support for an independent Delta, spending $2
million for lobbying, antitrust counsel and a public-relations effort. If the battle were to last longer, they
had authorized $15 million more.

Since then, Delta has settled every outstanding pilot grievance, resulting in a $30 million payoff for pilots.
In Delta's bankruptcy, concluded in April, pilots received $1.9 billion in claims and notes, more than their
counterparts at any other airline.

A close relationship with management is not the norm for pilots today. "I'm the black sheep of the legacy family
right now," Moak acknowledges. But his backers include Jack Stephan, chairman of the ALPA chapter at US Airways,
who calls Moak "a grass roots guy and a pilot's pilot."

Moak and Stephan became friends in 1996. Both were former military pilots who became strike chairmen, and
Stephan came to Atlanta to assist in Delta strike preparations. At the time, many Delta pilots were
uncomfortable with the concept.

"Lee had a difficult job, kind of an ugly job, and he handled it well," Stephan said. The straight-laced Moak
called Stephan, whose hair was long at the time, "pulp fiction." Moak, by contrast, "always looked like a
Marine," Stephan said.

Says aviation consultant Robert Mann: "When Moak first came aboard as chairman, he was viewed as far more
antimanagement than the guy he followed, but over time he has forged a good dialogue with management. You don't
see that elsewhere, except at Continental."

Moak calls his relationship with Grinstein "a roller coaster." The low came in the spring of 2006, when Delta
pilots threatened to strike during bitter contract talks. Six months later, when the U.S. Airways bid was
unveiled, "pilots decided it was not rational, and I went in and told [Grinstein] that," Moak recalled in an
interview. "He said 'I understand.' He didn't say anything more because the creditors committee hadn't made a
decision yet." So pilots took the lead.

As for Richard Anderson, who took over as CEO in September, Moak says his actions have backed up his words. "And
we're aligned on certain issues, but I'm always aware that our paths could diverge at some point," he says. The
current pilot contract can be amended in 2010.

Moak doesn't confine himself to airline engagements. He and other union officials have made 500 visits to
Capitol Hill, lobbying for pilot causes. He has met with Pension Benefit Guaranty Corp. officials, seeking to
boost pension payments for Delta pilots. And he has met with hedge fund managers who, as of Sept. 30, held 17%
of Delta's stock and are pushing for industry consolidation.

"We want to meet with everyone who owns Delta stock," Moak says. "To not do that would be irresponsible."

Moak is not fond of hedge funds. He describes their managers as "tough guys, who cuss more than a sailor on
liberty, have a lot of passion and testosterone, and [who say] 'we're going to make money and kill everybody.'"
He told pilots: "They don't fly Delta. They don't care about you. They care about money."

He described a November meeting with Pardus Capital Management, which has called for a merger of Delta and
United. "At the meeting they said, 'You have 90 days. You have to get these airlines merged in 90 days,'" Moak
said. "And I just started laughing."


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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When the posts are that good, sometimes you just have to make them twice.

How do you like Moak?

Seems like he is on top of the situation.
 
When the posts are that good, sometimes you just have to make them twice.

How do you like Moak?

Seems like he is on top of the situation.

WHAT do you mean? I AM LEE MOAK. No, really I am not, but he shares a first name with me. He seems capable, and at Delta you either love him or you hate him. I think he has most of our best interests at heart. Some people think he is too close to management, but sometimes you have to be close to realize what exactly is going on. We helped management out during the attempted takeover by USAir, and in the end that helped us too. He also knows we want some of our pay back eventually, and I think he is not easily intimidated. I think he is a good guy for the job now, and hopefully he keeps a hard line against bad mergers.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 
How do you like Moak?

Seems like he is on top of the situation.


I disagree with Moak on some issues.....namely scope. However, I don't doubt that he is very passionate about taking care of the Delta pilots, and whatever actions he takes are what he believes are in our best interests.

Pilots can absolutely have an affect on a merger. Look at USAirways. They are merged in name only. Really, they are still two seperate companies and will remain so until they get the USAir pilots on board somehow.
 
What is Moak's scope position?

You are correct about mergers. So much for "synergies" at US Air.
 
*THUMP* *THUMP* *THUMP*

More inane chest thumping from DALPA. Just like they did right before they promised no scope concessions, then conceded.

If Anderson and the BOD want a merger, it will happen regardless of what Moak and DALPA think. What will they do strike? Riiiight. DALPA have already proven that they are too big of ****** to do anything about it. They're nothing but a bunch of big mouthed pussies, just like their ring leader General Lee.

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