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[HowardBorden]

Arbitration would have been so much easier on everyone, and a lot more fair. Oh well, you and Wavey just don't understand, and that's obvious.

What you either fail to realize, or blatantly omit, was that the offers came from SWA. Management had the right and ability to put forth offers completely on their own. They put out an original offer that kept every captain in their seat, had date of signing pay parity and fenced Atlanta. ALPA chose not to allow that offer to be sent to membership ratification. That second offer put forth by SWA MANAGEMENT was the offer that was voted on and overwhelmingly ratified by equal numbers in both groups. The process agreement specifically stated that all 4 signatories preferred a non arbitrated agreement. End of story. Had either group failed to ratify the next step in the process agreement was arbitration.

 

[waveflyer]

Funny stuff. Your airline is replacing the 717s one for one. And your company knew exactly what it was doing, legally. Why didn't AT ALPA sue? They figured out that SWA did it legally. It had to be done one way, and they did it correctly. But, thanks for the upgrades and RJ replacements.

And don't blame anyone but your boss for not revealing the plans. I'm sure the AT guys would have wanted to know too. They thought they could bid the 717s and stay Capts. That didn't happen.


Bye Bye---General Lee

And btw- you've made this argument dozens of times- so let's handle it-
why is that replacement a good thing for Swapa pilots?
It's getting very hard to 737 airframes- why do you think we've held onto the classics? Also the 717 was touted as being the slightly smaller aircraft that could get us into smaller communities.
Now instead of new airplanes meaning growth, there just aren't enough airplanes in the world for us to grow all that substantially to take the sting out of diluted seniority. What you don't know is that the air tran purchase was sold to Swapa pilots as a springboard for growth. We're finally seeing some of that, but it has been glacial compared to what was hinted at. And anyone with a brain could see that it would have to be as soon as we got rid of 88 airplanes that were supposed to open up dozens of smaller communities and give job security to the amarillos of the world.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

What you don't know is that the air tran purchase was sold to Swapa pilots as a springboard for growth. We're finally seeing some of that, but it has been glacial compared to what was hinted at.

Was there significant overlap between the SWA and AT operations?