Delta is in talks with SkyWest to sell one or both of its regional airlines.

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

hey hey, here is some food for the fire.


www.careerbuilder.com

search for pilot under job search, about ten entries down is an ad for skywest pilots out of....... your guessed it HOTLANTA. chew on that while you fight amongst yourselves for the scraps of this industry.

Just another Job Fair...they've held them all over the place...I wouldn't read anything into the job posting. If you look at Skywest's website, the same info is there.

HMM

 

[MedFlyer]

On a side note, what happened to the seven RJ's SkyWest was supposed to take delivery of for DL Connection in 2005? I remember looking at the SkyWest website a while back and they were on the delivery schedule. Now, they are gone. Anyone know?

 

[DDpaysoff]

Just what Skywest needs...300 shiny, new planes and no one to fly them. I'm sure it won't take them long to get 3,000 new pilots up to speed, though.

The irony is poetic.
1. Delta sells Comair and ASA to skywest to stave off bancruptcy.
2. Comair and ASA shut down 2/3 of the skywest operation and force DAL into bancruptcy.

 

[GogglesPisano]

7 pages and no one has asked what effect a potential sell off would have on those lovable buffoons on the RJDC

 

[Nindiri]

Question for Comair guys

Is it possible or likely that your MEC knew about this potential deal before now, and pushed the LOA as a way of getting whatever scope protection was possible to protect CMR in the event the deal went through? Having min fleet size protection in this case certainly wouldn't hurt, and would slow down any dismantling of CMR. Just curious.

 

[Medeco]

On a side note, what happened to the seven RJ's SkyWest was supposed to take delivery of for DL Connection in 2005? I remember looking at the SkyWest website a while back and they were on the delivery schedule. Now, they are gone. Anyone know?

Since you asked.

ASA mgt. types for the past few weeks have hinted that we were going to get seven more than the 25 we were getting in the RFP deal. Many assumed that they were coming from GE/ IndyAIR.

But, I saw a GO kinda guy in flightsafety the other week who likes to kiss SB's a$$, and also used to teach the Indoc class. He said that the 7 were a result of Delta and Skywest not being able to come to a deal. Something about the old contract was up for skywest and they were not meeting the Delta price.

I dunno.

Medeco

 

[Tim47SIP]

Medeco

ASA mgt. types for the past few weeks have hinted that we were going to get seven more than the 25 we were getting in the RFP deal. Many assumed that they were coming from GE/ IndyAIR.

1) We were told many moons ago that we were going to get the 25 plus an additional 10 from FlyI. Are these 7 in addition to those?

2) Have you seen the June prelims? Only 4-70 seat FO's. Maybe due to a major backup with the training department, or maybe a coincedence. But with all of the aircraft we are supposed to be getting, this prelim does not support it.

Your guess is as good as mine.

 

[Ace757]

the 10 planes from Indy are just a rumor for now. It is true that their could be 10 planes from Indy coming to Delta, but they have not yet been assigned to anyone yet. The additional 7 CRJ's to the 25 ARE the one's from Skywest. The OFFICIAL totals for the year are 32 confirmed orders. They are all CR2's right now. They are still negotiating the switch to CR7's

 

[CR7pilot]

At least one is a 70-seat. 761ND (from V1)

 

[N813CA]

Nindiri

I think your on to somthing. Also in the LOA Comair pilots have to be integrated into a new companies senority based off of hire date, as well as our contract can't be changed.

 

[FDJ2]

Nindiri

I think your on to somthing. Also in the LOA Comair pilots have to be integrated into a new companies senority based off of hire date, as well as our contract can't be changed.

Can you post the contract language in your LOA that states that?

 

[EUT]

Would someone please explain the terms of the Allegheny-Mohawk Merger?

EUT

 

[737 Pylt]

7 pages and no one has asked what effect a potential sell off would have on those lovable buffoons on the RJDC

Goggles:
Hopefully the worst! (only on the rjdc)
737

 

[Jack-O-Lantern]

Dont count your hatch's before they chicken

 

[FurloughedAgain]

in most contracts the Allegheny/Mohawk LPPs (Labor protective provisions) require the "pilots to go with the planes"

I'll post the Allegheny Mohawk LPPs in a moment.

Just a reminder...
ALPA merger policy doesn't address date-of-hire. It's based on career expectations with no windfalls.

Realistically a regional/regional merger of two airlines of similar size and scope would most likely go slotted date-of-hire with fences.

But in the case of a merger with Skywest (nonunion) or Chautauqua (Teamsters) all bets are off.

Look at TWA/AA...

 

[FurloughedAgain]

Labor Protective Provisions: http://216.156.32.93/Allegheny%20Mohawk%20LPPs.htm

Section 3 and 13 apply to seniority integration.

As you can see, if the acquiring airline does not have a collective bargaining unit section 13 would be difficult to apply.

If the collective bargaining units DIFFER ... well, just ask a TWA pilot what he thinks about the Allegheny Mohawk LPPs.

They're better than nothing, but they are a WORST CASE SCENARIO that is designed to "protect" you if there is not strong enough successorship or fragmentation language in your PWA.

 

[TriJet]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhh SNAP! And SkyWest isn't an ALPA carrier..... What is the merger policy of a non-ALPA carrier? Looks like the Brasilia FOs could be CR7 captains really quick..... Oh Snap!


Bye Bye--General Lee

__________________
"Ride the Snake"

---Jimmy Tango's quick weight loss
Plan

(Jim Carey on SNL)

Oh snap?? haven't heard that since junior high

 

[TriJet]

If Delta appoints the General to be their CEO, maybe they'll be better off.

He seems to have a solution to every problem of every airline.

 

[N2264J]

Re: Delta is in talks...

7 pages and no one has asked what effect a potential sell off would have on those lovable buffoons on the RJDC

No effect at all and thank you for asking. ALPA still has a duty to Comair and ASA pilots regardless of the corporate structure.

If you're not just feigning interest in order to make disparaging remarks about a lawsuit you don't understand, here's our fact sheet from last September:

http://www.rjdefense.com/2004/restructure_factsheet.pdf

 

[rgd]

General Lee = Kip Dynamite (Napoleon's brother)


General Kip: "RJ pilots, your just mad because I've been online all day talking on Flight info.com".

General Kip: "I have a 4:00 chat room meeting today"
Uncle Rico: "How long is that"?
General Kip:"I don't know, sometimes they last 3 or 4 hours".




As soon as I saw Kip on the computer in that movie, I thought, jeez there is the general.

 

[737 Pylt]

No effect at all and thank you for asking. ALPA still has a duty to Comair and ASA pilots regardless of the corporate structure.

If you're not just feigning interest in order to make disparaging remarks about a lawsuit you don't understand, here's our fact sheet from last September:

http://www.rjdefense.com/2004/restructure_factsheet.pdf

You have to be the biggest idiot around. Your fact sheet is a pile of lies. Something you and your rjdc pals are notorious for!
737

 

[sweptback]

General Lee = Kip Dynamite (Napoleon's brother)


General Kip: "RJ pilots, your just mad because I've been online all day talking on Flight info.com".

General Kip: "I have a 4:00 chat room meeting today"
Uncle Rico: "How long is that"?
General Kip:"I don't know, sometimes they last 3 or 4 hours".




As soon as I saw Kip on the computer in that movie, I thought, jeez there is the general.

Yeah, but then the General will come back and say that he gets to bang some hot chick named "La Fawnduh"

 

[General Lee]

Yeah, but then the General will come back and say that he gets to bang some hot chick named "La Fawnduh"

I never saw that movie. But, I did see the Aviator. You know what I thought about it? It was the WAVE OF THE FUTURE. THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE. THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE. IT WAS THE WAVE OF THE FUTURE......


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

General Lee = Kip Dynamite (Napoleon's brother)


General Kip: "RJ pilots, your just mad because I've been online all day talking on Flight info.com".

General Kip: "I have a 4:00 chat room meeting today"
Uncle Rico: "How long is that"?
General Kip:"I don't know, sometimes they last 3 or 4 hours".




As soon as I saw Kip on the computer in that movie, I thought, jeez there is the general.

Yeah, you did! Sure you did! Ha, YES you did. HA HA HA. I remember you did. That really wasn't that funny. I never saw that movie.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[doh]

General, do yourself a favour, don't get the movie. I didn't understand it at all. I think it might be a generation thing.

 

[homerjdispatch]

Maybe a sell-off is much closer than thought...


http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/050310/airlines_delta_2.html

 

[737 Pylt]

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/050310/airlines_delta_2.html[/url]

Homer:
Didn't you know that's because of those over paid greedy mainline pilots!?
737

 

[homerjdispatch]

I have nothing but love for mainline. good luck to all involved.

 

[RichO]

Actually they are talking the B word now too......again....

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050310/delta_outlook_12.html

 

[Tim47SIP]

Pensions?

I think that Delta will go after mainlines pension plan. This announcement has been alluded to in the past, so nothing new. But the severity dispayed might mean that Delta has something planned. Maybe more shrinking of mainline (which I highly doubt), or further conssessions from ALL of us. It looks like it will be a rocky road ahead. If U can hang on as long as they have, then I think Delta can pull out of this.