Delta is in talks with SkyWest to sell one or both of its regional airlines.

[Dave Benjamin]

You are incorrect Sleepy. I did not vote to lower the bar at CMR.

 

[Morning Wood]

Each time SKYW has bought an airline the employees of the acquired airline have
really gotten the short end of the stick. If SKYW does buy ASA or CA I would be very surprised to see the ASA or CA guys get treated fairly. The only hope they have is that ALPA may be able to broker some sort of Allegheny/Mohawk merger deal. Once on property, they could maybe get ALPA on property and things wouldn't be so bad for them. That is probably the best case scenario. The worst case scenario is Jerry A. getting his wish to just buy the assets and then hire the employees that he needs. That would most likely be in reverse seniority order like it was when they bought WestAir.

It would be better if XJT was to buy ASA and CA. Then there would be one huge A$$ ALPA regional carrier that might just have a little leverage to shake things up a bit in the regional industry. I've heard around town that DAL execs have also had a few working dinners with the XJT guys about this same issue. It makes sense to have more than one company in on the bidding to see who will give them the most cash. The only reason you don't hear about XJT in on the deal is that their execs can keep their mouths shut and the SKYW guys are always running their mouths about stuff they shouldn't.

The only airline Skywest ever bought was Sun Aire. West Air was out
of business when their assets were picked up.

 

[Morning Wood]

Someone just posted a successorship clause right before this post. If this is for CMR, ASA or both, you are covered. If an airline does not have this, there could be trouble.

Lacking a successorship clause, it depends on whether or not the company's are "operationally integrated". This is unlikely. Odds are things will remain quite the same. If they are integated, CMR and ASA guys are screwed. This is the worse case scenario. Skywest can do what they want. At least they will finally be union...

With no integration, all are screwed to some degree. Can you say whipsaw???

XJT did NOTHING when we were sold off from CAL. The capacity purchase agreement was set up as part of the IPO. It did not come afterwards.

This is one more reason why SCOPE even at the small jet level is such an important issue. The XJT scope clause guarantees us fair and equitable seniority integration with ANYONE that buys us and integrates the operations.

Good luck to all of my ALPA bro's at CMR and ASA. I wish you the best.

Dude....I didn't really read your post...I couldn't get past the aviatar. I about
choked on my ice water. Too funny

 

[TX_DFW]

DELTA PRESS RELEASE

March 8, 2005

Several media outlets are reporting that officials from SkyWest Airlines have expressed an interest in acquiring one or more of Delta's wholly owned subsidiaries. Consistent with longstanding policy, Delta will not comment publicly on such stories. Delta has said repeatedly that the Delta Connection program remains a strategic component of the network. Employees of Delta Connection carriers have long played a critical role in delivering good service to Delta customers. Delta intends to continue its use of regional carriers to provide efficient, reliable service to customers.

I guess you have to chose who you believe.

 

[VABB]

maybee skywest will pick up the frj's as well...if skywest picks up ASA and Comair then they can do what ALPA at ASA and Comair have been pushing for over the last few years, have one airline. Although, it would be interesting to see how they would merge the airlines with non-union and union.

The union thing won't be an issue for SkyWest. Comair/ASA guys will be stapled to the bottom. If they don't like it, they will be forced to look for work elsewhere. What's ALPA going to do, take a non-existent union to court and sue them? SkyWest has the cash, they have the upper hand, and they call the shots.

 

[patriotflier]

Finally after 6 pages of stuff....Yudso hit the nail right on the head!

So, was the Comair LOA just a way to sweeten the pot for a potential buyer?

Fred is denying what he has known for some time....It is no secret that Delta has Comair on the market. By the comair pilots voting in the Pay freeze it made Comair much more attractive for a buyout.

Don't you think it is ironic that Fred becomes CEO, pushes for a pay freeze and then all of a sudden Comair/ASA are on the used car lot for sale? Kinda sounds like a person inheriting a cheap car, reconditions it and then goes to the auction to sell if for a huge profit.

I am more shocked about ASA being talked about in a buy out! Did'nt see that one coming!!!!!!

As people have mention about DFW....That has no bearing on this situation at all!!!!! DFW has been lodsing money for 9 years. THe competition in Dallasa is fierce including the airline most people forget to mention SWA! You cannot compete with SW with an RJ...Just can't happen! This has absolutely no bearing on this possible buy out. So drop the issue.

Bottom line is Comair is going to be sold and ASA very well MAYbe sold also and there is not a dam thing we can do to stop, control or influence the decision Mother Delta will make. The only thing we could possible do is to band together and purchase the airline ourselves. I really can't say I have that type of money laying around in my bank account.

 

[FL000]

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[FL000]

The union thing won't be an issue for SkyWest. Comair/ASA guys will be stapled to the bottom. If they don't like it, they will be forced to look for work elsewhere. What's ALPA going to do, take a non-existent union to court and sue them? SkyWest has the cash, they have the upper hand, and they call the shots.

Just what Skywest needs...300 shiny, new planes and no one to fly them. I'm sure it won't take them long to get 3,000 new pilots up to speed, though.

 

[treetopflyer]

hey hey, here is some food for the fire.


www.careerbuilder.com

search for pilot under job search, about ten entries down is an ad for skywest pilots out of....... your guessed it HOTLANTA. chew on that while you fight amongst yourselves for the scraps of this industry.

 

[BID]

I think Brad Rich, CFO of SkyWest might of said too much!

"A SkyWest spokeswoman at the company's headquarters in St. George, Utah, could not immediately confirm Rich's comments or provide a transcript of the comments when reached Tuesday by The Associated Press. "

Huh? Our website is usually really quick to point out negative news information on our home page. "Comair freezes pay" "UAL losing money" etc. etc, but I have yet to see anything about this "rumor".

Our jet orders end this summer and WallStreet wants us to start using our money. Maybe this rumor is true????????

Time will tell, I just hope I am gone before anything happens, JetBlue! please take me away.

 

[HowlinMadMurdoc]

hey hey, here is some food for the fire.


www.careerbuilder.com

search for pilot under job search, about ten entries down is an ad for skywest pilots out of....... your guessed it HOTLANTA. chew on that while you fight amongst yourselves for the scraps of this industry.

Just another Job Fair...they've held them all over the place...I wouldn't read anything into the job posting. If you look at Skywest's website, the same info is there.

HMM

 

[MedFlyer]

On a side note, what happened to the seven RJ's SkyWest was supposed to take delivery of for DL Connection in 2005? I remember looking at the SkyWest website a while back and they were on the delivery schedule. Now, they are gone. Anyone know?

 

[DDpaysoff]

Just what Skywest needs...300 shiny, new planes and no one to fly them. I'm sure it won't take them long to get 3,000 new pilots up to speed, though.

The irony is poetic.
1. Delta sells Comair and ASA to skywest to stave off bancruptcy.
2. Comair and ASA shut down 2/3 of the skywest operation and force DAL into bancruptcy.

 

[GogglesPisano]

7 pages and no one has asked what effect a potential sell off would have on those lovable buffoons on the RJDC

 

[Nindiri]

Question for Comair guys

Is it possible or likely that your MEC knew about this potential deal before now, and pushed the LOA as a way of getting whatever scope protection was possible to protect CMR in the event the deal went through? Having min fleet size protection in this case certainly wouldn't hurt, and would slow down any dismantling of CMR. Just curious.

 

[Medeco]

On a side note, what happened to the seven RJ's SkyWest was supposed to take delivery of for DL Connection in 2005? I remember looking at the SkyWest website a while back and they were on the delivery schedule. Now, they are gone. Anyone know?

Since you asked.

ASA mgt. types for the past few weeks have hinted that we were going to get seven more than the 25 we were getting in the RFP deal. Many assumed that they were coming from GE/ IndyAIR.

But, I saw a GO kinda guy in flightsafety the other week who likes to kiss SB's a$$, and also used to teach the Indoc class. He said that the 7 were a result of Delta and Skywest not being able to come to a deal. Something about the old contract was up for skywest and they were not meeting the Delta price.

I dunno.

Medeco

 

[Tim47SIP]

Medeco

ASA mgt. types for the past few weeks have hinted that we were going to get seven more than the 25 we were getting in the RFP deal. Many assumed that they were coming from GE/ IndyAIR.

1) We were told many moons ago that we were going to get the 25 plus an additional 10 from FlyI. Are these 7 in addition to those?

2) Have you seen the June prelims? Only 4-70 seat FO's. Maybe due to a major backup with the training department, or maybe a coincedence. But with all of the aircraft we are supposed to be getting, this prelim does not support it.

Your guess is as good as mine.

 

[Ace757]

the 10 planes from Indy are just a rumor for now. It is true that their could be 10 planes from Indy coming to Delta, but they have not yet been assigned to anyone yet. The additional 7 CRJ's to the 25 ARE the one's from Skywest. The OFFICIAL totals for the year are 32 confirmed orders. They are all CR2's right now. They are still negotiating the switch to CR7's

 

[CR7pilot]

At least one is a 70-seat. 761ND (from V1)

 

[N813CA]

Nindiri

I think your on to somthing. Also in the LOA Comair pilots have to be integrated into a new companies senority based off of hire date, as well as our contract can't be changed.