Delta is getting ready to hire!!!

[ACL65PILOT]

Yep, but do not forget all of those that are willing to commute to the flying. If they pull the trigger on more 767 conversions to ER (60-70 is what I am hearing in each seat) a ton of guys that commute to MEM for 320A are going to Jump ship. I know of one TPA commuter that is in the top 300 that is just waiting for that!

 

[Superpilot92]

Yep, but do not forget all of those that are willing to commute to the flying. If they pull the trigger on more 767 conversions to ER (60-70 is what I am hearing in each seat) a ton of guys that commute to MEM for 320A are going to Jump ship. I know of one TPA commuter that is in the top 300 that is just waiting for that!

Oh I agree that there will be movement throughout the system but my point was just to let the General know that there arent 800 DAL-S guys that live in FL.

 

[Noserider76]

Yep, but do not forget all of those that are willing to commute to the flying. If they pull the trigger on more 767 conversions to ER (60-70 is what I am hearing in each seat) a ton of guys that commute to MEM for 320A are going to Jump ship. I know of one TPA commuter that is in the top 300 that is just waiting for that!

Just so I have this straight, displacements are run before AEs so most of those 767 displacements will just probably just switch over to the ER for a wash. Correct?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

E. Advance Entitlements and Voluntary Displacements
1. The following vacancies will be awarded simultaneously and in seniority order among
pilots whose standing bid, in DBMS at the closing date and time, contains a preference
for the category(ies) involved:
a. AE,
b. VD,
c. contingent vacancies, and
d. other vacancies that:
1) first became known during the period of the posting of the vacancy notice, and
2) are caused by termination, resignation, or an absence whose anticipated duration
is greater than 120 days.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

F. Surplus and Displacement
1. A surplus notice will be posted at each base as far in advance as possible, but not more
than 210 days before the last date on which it could become effective.
2. A pilot in a category with a surplus, who is projected to be displaced, will be notified of
his projected displacement as far in advance as possible, but not more than 210 days
before the last date on which his displacement could become effective.
3. A surplus notice will include the following:
a. each category where a surplus of pilots exists or is expected to exist,
b. number of such pilots in each such category,
c. the last date upon which a projected displacement(s) can become effective, which will
be not more than 210 days after the posting of such notice, and
d. the closing date and time, which will:
1) be at least ten days after the posting of the notice, and
2) be the deadline after which a change in a pilot’s standing bid will not be
considered for the VD or MD.
4. The last date upon which a displacement can become effective may be extended beyond
210 days from its date of posting by mutual agreement between the Company and the
pilot who holds the VD or MD.
5. The Company will forward to a pilot copies of surplus notices posted during his absence
if:
a. such absence is due to his vacation, sick leave, or leave of absence, and
b. the pilot delivers to his Chief Pilot’s office:
1) a written request for copies of surplus notices, and
2) a stamped self-addressed envelope(s).
6. Pilots in a category with a surplus will be displaced in inverse seniority order.
Exception: A senior pilot (excluding a pilot who has been bypassed under
Section 22 E. 14.), may volunteer to be displaced (i.e., via a VD) in lieu of a junior pilot
in the same category. A pilot who holds a VD may:
a. displace into a category to fill an existing vacancy that his seniority entitles him to
hold,
b. displace a pilot junior to him in the same position in a different base, or
c. displace a pilot in any category who:
1) was in such category on the award date of the pilot who holds the VD, and
2) is junior to the pilot whose displacement he volunteered to take.
7. Displacement(s) will be processed on the basis of standing bids existing in DBMS as of
the closing date and time of the posting and will become effective at 0001E on the
conversion date.
8. Contingent displacements will be processed simultaneously.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

12. A pilot who holds an MD will, without regard to the standing bids of senior pilots, be
reinstated to the category from which he was displaced if:
a. a vacancy is posted in such category and the earliest conversion date stated in the
posting is within the 180 day period following the conversion date of his MD,
b. his standing bid indicates a request for such reinstatement, and
c. such vacancy has not been filled by reinstatement of a pilot senior to him who was
also awarded an MD from such category.
13. A pilot who holds an MD may displace a pilot in any category who is junior to him and
who was in such category on the award date of his MD.
14. A pilot whose standing bid does not contain sufficient MD preferences as of the closing
date and time of the posting and is displaced will be assigned the next lower position at
his base. If such pilot lacks sufficient seniority to hold a lower position at his base, he
will, at Company option, be assigned into any position at another base that his seniority
would permit him to hold

That bold part is for you Super.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Remember though that with the 765 (10) going to JFK lots of guys that are MDed off of the 767 will not be able to roll to the ER. Add to it anyone that puts a VD in that is senior will change a few things. It could get real interesting.

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

Interesting stats from down south, but there are a LOT of DAL-N guys that live within a 2 hour car/train ride to LGA/JFK (300+ last time I did the math). Some guys just live there, but others are leftovers from the NYC and BOS bases. Many, many of these guys are on the 744 and 330.

If they do add any un-fenced flying there (cough 767 cough), it will go uber senior from the north side.

I'm not sayin' anything, I'm just sayin'...

Nu

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Fine with me. It is what it is. We ratified the process, and the results are now going to start coming in. Now we all will get to experience the worlds most successful airline merger first hand.

Best way to combat that is with is growth so get your luck rabbits foot out

 

[General Lee]

Per the DAL 44 demographics update there is only 342 DAL-N pilots that live in FL and 76 in GA

DAL-S has 597 pilots that live in FLA and 2345 pilots that live in GA.

FWIW

That's crazy. I was told there were 800 living in FLA, and 200-300 living in ATL alone...... Still, 342 DAL-N pilots will take a good look at ATL and probably JFK from FLA. I would.


Bye Bye--General Lee