Delta Hiring

[andyd]

Well, If substantiated that is complete and total BS and should be stopped. I won't go as far as misappropriation of funds....but it certainly doesn't pass the smell test at a minimum.

 

[FBN0223]

Not that many. It's disgusting the abuse of the system by the current MEC. Did you know there is an apartment in Atlanta for Lee Moak? Paid for by the DAL MEC? He should have to provide his own damm crash pad just like every other commuter.

In my view, you can give him a nice condo, a decent car, and throw in a hot French maid if he would actually focus 100% of his efforts on what's best for Delta pilots.

Just spent part of the day non-revving coast to coast on Delta without ever flying with a Delta crew. I started on Compass and connected to Skywest. Thanks ALPA!!!

 

[Monster Buck]

On the subject of this thread....I was talking with a CP a couple of days ago and he said it like this about staffing...."I don't see us hiring in the short term but by no means furloughing. We are going to approach moving ac around over a total of 5-6 years. With as many different types we have and over 12000 pilots, there will be so many pilots in transition stages that our overages are a necessity"

So take it for what its worth.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

On the subject of this thread....I was talking with a CP a couple of days ago and he said it like this about staffing...."I don't see us hiring in the short term but by no means furloughing. We are going to approach moving ac around over a total of 5-6 years. With as many different types we have and over 12000 pilots, there will be so many pilots in transition stages that our overages are a necessity"

So take it for what its worth.

That is the way I see it. Maybe in late 2010 to 2011 we will hire. Come 2012 we will be hiring a lot just to keep up attrition. If the economy gets better than predicted it could be sooner. We just do not have enough time to justify a furlough.

 

[GogglesPisano]

When do NWA's retirements ramp up again?

 

[ACL65PILOT]

When do NWA's retirements ramp up again?

I figure 2012 when 65 hits. They go for about eight years than ours kick in for 10 years.

Go to the DALPA website, my page, and then look at the seniority calculator. It is close, but some assumptions are off. It will show you what to expect going forward.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Not that many. It's disgusting the abuse of the system by the current MEC. Did you know there is an apartment in Atlanta for Lee Moak? Paid for by the DAL MEC? He should have to provide his own damm crash pad just like every other commuter.

I checked in to this earlier today. We actually have a set of apartments here. Not just one for Lee. We have been renting these for a long time, over many administrations.

If we NEED them, then we need to buy these places so we can make a return on investment. We are currently just paying rent from what I am told.

 

[asadonkey]

WTF! ...... over

 

[jonjuan]

I checked in to this earlier today. We actually have a set of apartments here. Not just one for Lee. We have been renting these for a long time, over many administrations.

If we NEED them, then we need to buy these places so we can make a return on investment. We are currently just paying rent from what I am told.

It seems as though you are less outraged now that there are a "set" of them over a long time.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

It seems as though you are less outraged now that there are a "set" of them over a long time.

No I was pointing out that this is not a "new" practice.

 

[Capt. Caucasian]

Eh, screw it.

 

[another cfii]

Suppose if we compare it with other powerful unions in the nation, it's quite the norm. There're more ways to blow our union dues than a "set" of apartments for our fearless leaders. Heck, you can blow the monthly mortgage with a few lap dances for the entire MEC members in 1 night!

 

[michael707767]

I checked in to this earlier today. We actually have a set of apartments here. Not just one for Lee. We have been renting these for a long time, over many administrations.

If we NEED them, then we need to buy these places so we can make a return on investment. We are currently just paying rent from what I am told.

Ok, again I ask, why should Moak and other MEC folks get a paid for apartment when your average line pilot is responsible for his own accomodations if he/she commutes?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Ok, again I ask, why should Moak and other MEC folks get a paid for apartment when your average line pilot is responsible for his own accomodations if he/she commutes?

Union practicing 101................
On that same subject Michael. Were you aware that besides having trips dropped and paid for, that your local reps also get their expenses reimbursed, to include basic milege to and from the airport? Don't believe me, just ask a rep.

 

[michael707767]

Union practicing 101................
On that same subject Michael. Were you aware that besides having trips dropped and paid for, that your local reps also get their expenses reimbursed, to include basic milege to and from the airport? Don't believe me, just ask a rep.

Are you fu*king kidding me? All paid for by our dues no doubt.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Are you fu*king kidding me? All paid for by our dues no doubt.

You bet! Gotta love union politics! And you wonder why these guys are holding on to thier title's as long as possible!

 

[Sinca3]

You bet! Gotta love union politics! And you wonder why these guys are holding on to thier title's as long as possible!

Really!! How many reps are rerunning for Council 44?
Hint.....less than 2.
While I disagree with the housing afforded to them I do know first hand how much time and effort goes into being part of the union. I feel it is fair to reimburse for expenses such as mileage and food for "union work" as it is a volunteer position that gets ZERO thanks from the average line pilot!
Cheers

 

[michael707767]

I feel it is fair to reimburse for expenses such as mileage and food for "union work" as it is a volunteer position that gets ZERO thanks from the average line pilot!
Cheers

Volunteer? Anyone who has ever had a paid trip drop to do ALPA work is not a volunteer. If they did it on their days off while still flying a full schedule, then they would be a volunteer.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Yes, when you drive to the airport from your home, you get your travel paid for.

As for the APTS, I called and asked, I was told this was not new, and this was not from a union insider. I am not sure why that needs to be done. As far as I knew the status reps have to pay for their housing. Something we need to look in to for sure.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Volunteer? Anyone who has ever had a paid trip drop to do ALPA work is not a volunteer. If they did it on their days off while still flying a full schedule, then they would be a volunteer.

I agree. Fly a full schedule and do this work on your days off, you're a volunteer, do it and get paid trip drops while getting reimbursments for driving to the airport anyway, it's bull********************!

 

[jonjuan]

Yes, when you drive to the airport from your home, you get your travel paid for.

Cool-so, door-to-door travel is now paid for. Sweet....

 

[Papa Woody]

My buddy's nannies' uncle is a janitor at Delta....told me there's a class in January.

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

What year??? Way overstaffed. Some fleets will be having over 35% on reserve. We have not had any open time to speak of on the 330 for months. Dtw went from approx. 30 reserves to 86 and the 30 were only flying about 30 hrs per month. Lots of sitting around.

My buddy's nannies' uncle is a janitor at Delta....told me there's a class in January.

 

[EMBpilot]

I heard the 88 guys working their tails off. Another displacement bid in the future?