Delta hiring freeze?

[WSurf]

No, really, have fun in Fayetteville with your parents, and keep doing that forever.

Bye Bye--General Lee

You don't like spending time with your parents? Were you abused or sexually assualted by your dad?

I am sure most people would jump at a chance to fly into a city on a regular basis that there parents or family members live in to spend quality time with them.

I kinda feel sorry for you.

 

[Heavy Set]

You don't like spending time with your parents? Were you abused or sexually assualted by your dad?

I am sure most people would jump at a chance to fly into a city on a regular basis that there parents or family members live in to spend quality time with them.

I kinda feel sorry for you.

Did he ever say he didn't like spending time with his parents? He said your parent's home city was dangerous. I think you are really stretching it here to try to be funny, and you are not succeeding.

 

[WSurf]

Did he ever say he didn't like spending time with his parents? He said your parent's home city was dangerous. I think you are really stretching it here to try to be funny, and you are not succeeding.

Well if I want your opinion I'll give it too you.

Yep, Fayetteville, NC is way more dangerous then A-T-L. wink wink

 

[John Pennekamp]

Funny thread...but seriously....

To each his own. There are many reasons to make the decisions we make. I have to remain at SkyWest for at least the next 4 years because my wife is in residency in SLC...with only 4 days off a month...I can't afford to commute and "waste" a day with her(if our marriage is going to be a good one). Would I like to stay somewhere exotic one every trip and make more money? Is the sky blue? However, OTHER things also contribute to the decisions I make for my career. Thus, I'll address my choice in 4 years...a lot can happen in that 4 years and if SkyWest is still around, I'll have 9 years of seniority. Having been furloughed and having suffered through crappy reserve, I think I will be leaning toward leveraging that 9 years and remaing here. Like I said, it'd be fun to fly bigger planes, with cooler overnights and for more money...but those things don't matter as much to me as good schedules(sooner rather than later), not commuting, and...the big one...not hanging off the end of a seniority list.

Like I said, to each his own.

Well said. Sometimes QOL and family outweigh the bigger airplane and slightly bigger pay check.

In the modern airline industry the incentive to move on to a legacy carrier is not as great as it once was. The pay, benefits, and QOL disparity as not as great, and it hardly pays to give up 10 years of seniority just to start over. It would take you almost 10 years to get back to where you are and make up the lost money over time. And despite Lee's asinine bragging, very few Delta pilots fly that schedule. Take a look at a 4 day Mad dog pairing (which most of the Delta pilots fly). The trips are the same as the RJ trips... 4+ legs a day and short overnights. All for just a little more money.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Great, you don't have to go across the pond if you don't want to. You can't seem to understand that. I guess you just like Panama City, Ft Walton, Hilton Head, and Tri-Cities. Hey, some guys are scared to venture to new places, and like familiarity. The ATR feels GOOD to you, and you are COMFORTABLE in it. That's great. That's awesome.

Bye Bye--General Lee

Yes it is. And I'm very happy and comfortable. And I barely work. To each his own.

Hey, I heard of a study on NPR the other day that the incidence of cancer in workers who work the backside of the clock is 4x that of the general population. I hope your have a good will to take care of your hot Ukrainian Bride. They also tend to age much faster. I'll be well rested after my long beach overnight. Cheers.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Sorry, transgender boy, I'd have no problem flying circles around you. That flight was on 9-12-01, when kids like you were on the ground. The B-2 is a very boring airplane-long hours cruising (too checklist intensive, for your simple mind)-but that's all you know about-straight and level with the autopilot on-boring. Don't speak about things of which you know nothing about. Oh wait, that's all you do. I have a sneaky feeling you might be my neighbor, he's always talking like you-out his butt. And if you're chasing hours, you gotta be in deep debt. And as far as teaching, you couldn't teach my 13 anything-who cares about 30 in 7, yep, the original General Lee got his a$$ whipped, and you carry on the tradition in fine fashion-what's that 'L' on your low sloped forehead. You can go back to your coloring book, now. Have fun at Trevi, rookie!

Oh snap! Puttin' the hurt on the General.

:beer:

 

[John Pennekamp]

Thanks Spidey for all of your wonderful service, but now you are in the land of "flying busses", and you suk. Guess what Iceman, this is the airline business, and all we do is carry people or boxes around. No more formation flying (you were a crew chief anyway, Sarge), or dropping bombs. So, I don't know anything about that? Sure I do, I watch Wings on Cable, and that is all I need to know. You can try to slam me for all it is worth, and I think it is funny, but that still doesn't take away the fact that you really are the looozer. Rookie? I think not. You were a crew chief on 9-12, weren't you? Well, the military needs good crew chiefs no doubt. Keep flying BE1900s now, and someday you will graduate to a Dash-8 with Wsurf. That will be fun, forever. And, seriously, you do have a lot to learn, and I certainly don't have the time to teach you, nor the patience.

Bye Bye--General Lee

General, you're pathetic. You got bitch slapped, yet you still come back with your school playground insults. You have some nerve to insult serving members of our military. You are a typical Delta pilot. A big mouthed puss who thinks the world owes him a favor. Give it a rest and admit defeat sometime... you can't always be right. Then maybe more people here would respect you and your opinions.

 

[WSurf]

Well said. Sometimes QOL and family outweigh the bigger airplane and slightly bigger pay check.

Bingo! Just think if I went to Delta...... wow, I might not have a life and end up with 10,000 (4.98 post a day?) on FlightInfo.

No Thanks...

 

[John Pennekamp]

guys like John Pennecamp will stay at ASA flying the ATR because he lacks the fortitude to actually try something new, while he stays "comfortable" staying in his "zone of tranquility." Kinda sad, actually, BUT SAFE. It's great when you know every ATC frequency ahead of time everywhere you go(NOT REALLY).

Bye Bye--General Lee

General, how out of touch are you? Have you seen a Mad dog schedule lately? WTF would I want to take a $50,000 a year pay cut to fly the same 5 leg four day trips I'm already flying? Is the Double Breasted Jacket really worth it? Oh, maybe I should do it for the pension... wait, never mind.

 

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General, you're pathetic. You got bitch slapped, yet you still come back with your school playground insults. ....You are a typical Delta pilot. A big mouthed puss.... Then maybe more people here would respect you and your opinions.

Joe: You disparage the General with the same language that you accuse him of using.

To restore the thread to its intent - there is no Deta pilot hiring freeze. The number for 2008 remains 625, although there are rumors of 1,000 and the increase in class size to 35 every two weeks seems to support the upper projection.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Might I suggest the pot is calling the kettle black, & suggest a short course of your own medicine.

Don't push me Fins. I already played the hypocrite card on you, and that hand is getting better every day.

 

[WSurf]

Bottom line is this. If your happy with the money, Vactions, QOL etc. seniority at your airline then why should others (GL) be so worried about your job.

We have Captains at PDT making 90k a year (more if and when we get LTP).
They all have 5 Vaction Slots, add that too your sick time and your freaking working 8 months out of the year. No Great, but not bad either.

Out of the first 100 Pilots at PDT only about 10 took the mainline job at US Airways. That should tell you something right there.

So if your happy with the money and QOL then theres no need to leave.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Joe: You disparage the General with the same language that you accuse him of using.

To restore the thread to its intent - there is no Deta pilot hiring freeze. The number for 2008 remains 625, although there are rumors of 1,000 and the increase in class size to 35 every two weeks seems to support the upper projection.

Yes, I stand corrected. I repeated the half baked news story. My apologies. The hiring freeze is management only, not front line employees. Unlike the General, I can admit it when I'm wrong. That doesn't make me any less disappointed with you and your new found Delta Pilot attitude.

 

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W Surf:

You are correct. I do not understand why folks can not get on the board, share ideas, and information, without it always turning into a game of one-up-manship and insults.

There are plenty of good reasons to stay at a Small Jet Provider, including pay and working conditions. There are reasons to go to a branded carrier too. What we need to do is work together so that there are ample justifications for any of us to want to call this line of work a profession.

 

[WSurf]

W Surf:

You are correct. I do not understand why folks can not get on the board, share ideas, and information, without it always turning into a game of one-up-manship and insults.

There are plenty of good reasons to stay at a Small Jet Provider, including pay and working conditions. There are reasons to go to a branded carrier too. What we need to do is work together so that there are ample justifications for any of us to want to call this line of work a profession.

Well Said