Delta hiring freeze?

[General Lee]

Great! I'm enjoying flying one hour legs to cities that end in beach and spending lots of time at home. Enjoy those 6000 mile legs ya big stud!

Do Valdosta and Flint have beaches? That's what he said.... Our longest leg on the 767ER is 5200 miles to Lagos, but I am way too senior for that. I will have fun in Rio this week, no doubt. Next week, Vienna, and Copenhagen after that. Trips like those are really fun, and most are 3 days worth 22 hours or more. 17 days off for me this month, including the holidays. What are the most days off you can get at ASA as a linehoilder John? Have fun and kick some arse!

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I'm surprised that anyone would go to a Major (well, since Major has been redefined to a $ revenue amount I guess I really mean "Legacy" for you youngsters) airline with no defined benifit retirement plan...but there are a lot of stupid people out there lowering the bar. Hell, I've been one!

Well, we all know now that a "pension" is a "promise" that can be broken, in BK. It has happened to most (not all) of the airlines that have gone to BK, and the one that did not lose it lost almost all of their rules and duty rigs. But, we do have a DC plan (Direct Contribution) that gives us (at DL) 11% per month (11% if what we make each month is matched by Delta--9% in the DC plan and 2% in the 401K--both seperate plans) in our own names. That is good because we could take it with us if we decided to leave, or if the company liquidated. United has a 16% DC plan, and that is what we are aiming for next contract in 09. Along with the DC plan we have our own 401K that is funded by us in each paycheck, and as I said before is matched 2% by the company as well.

One more thing, everyone that HAD a pension with Delta will be paid a lump sum in January (next month) and will try to fill the 401K allottment for 2008. ($44,000) I have been here a little more than 10 years and will get $66,000. Some Captains that are still here got $250,000 ( on top of their $400,000 in the claim sale after BK). Also, most retired guys got most of their pensions thanks to the PBGC being made whole by the claim sale too.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[scarlet]

yeah did the Intl thing to Japan=15 hours HOW FUN!!! and have you been in those crew quarters???And Intl, waiting on the hotel room for over an hour, time change,money exchange, can't read the menus, no internet, no phone, no way to get home in Emerg.,heaven forbide you have an emerg.

I have been there and to Europe and Asia and long legs=No thank you. Look up on internet about graveyard shift=early death, was just on internet a few weeks ago.

 

[WSurf]

Do Valdosta and Flint have beaches? That's what he said.... Our longest leg on the 767ER is 5200 miles to Lagos, but I am way too senior for that. I will have fun in Rio this week, no doubt. Next week, Vienna, and Copenhagen after that. Trips like those are really fun, and most are 3 days worth 22 hours or more. 17 days off for me this month, including the holidays. What are the most days off you can get at ASA as a linehoilder John? Have fun and kick some arse!

Bye Bye--General Lee

General you only have a wife with no kids. You will see soon son that a overnight is a overnight is a overnight. Who the hell wants to fly to the middle east anyway?

Wait until you have a family. You will never ever wanna fly to those cities and be thousands of miles away from your loved ones. I love the fact that I have a couple of overnights that I can rent a car and drive 1hr to my house and spend my overnight home with my wife and kid.

All those cities sound cool as hell, but once you have a family being away from home sucks and all overnights are the same.

Your whole outlook and the crap you type will all change once you have a kids.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Do Valdosta and Flint have beaches? That's what he said.... Our longest leg on the 767ER is 5200 miles to Lagos, but I am way too senior for that. I will have fun in Rio this week, no doubt. Next week, Vienna, and Copenhagen after that. Trips like those are really fun, and most are 3 days worth 22 hours or more. 17 days off for me this month, including the holidays. What are the most days off you can get at ASA as a linehoilder John? Have fun and kick some arse!

Bye Bye--General Lee

Well, you must forget I'm on the ATR. Love Hilton Head, and Myrtle Beach is pretty good too. Next up is Panama City. No Flint for me. Days off? I've seen lines go up to 18 days off on the jet. I usually get 12-16.

But have fun eating goat and avoiding dysentery in the armpit of the world. I'm sooooooo jealous. Carry on, General.

 

[John Pennekamp]

General you only have a wife with no kids.

HOT wife. He has a HOT wife. Just ask him. Get it right, damnit!!!

 

[John Pennekamp]

yeah did the Intl thing to Japan=15 hours HOW FUN!!! and have you been in those crew quarters???And Intl, waiting on the hotel room for over an hour, time change,money exchange, can't read the menus, no internet, no phone, no way to get home in Emerg.,heaven forbide you have an emerg.

I have been there and to Europe and Asia and long legs=No thank you. Look up on internet about graveyard shift=early death, was just on internet a few weeks ago.

I bet that 777 bunk smells like the sleeper in an 18 wheeler rig.

 

[CA1900]

General you only have a wife with no kids....Wait until you have a family.

A husband and wife certainly is a family. Not everyone in this world wants kids, and it's not the inevitability you make it seem.

Glad it works for you, but it isn't for everyone.

All those cities sound cool as hell, but once you have a family being away from home sucks and all overnights are the same.

I think you may have gotten yourself into the wrong business...

 

[WSurf]

I think you may have gotten yourself into the wrong business...

No, I love the flying part of the job. Since you don't have any kids you also don't know how it changes things. It just makes it tuff being gone 3 days or more away from home.

Hence at that point who cares where you overnight? Away from home is away from home.

 

[WSurf]

Not everyone in this world wants kids, and it's not the inevitability you make it seem.

Glad it works for you, but it isn't for everyone.

GL wants kids one day. So I will give him the heads up on how these great trips won't sound so great once he does have children.

Once you have children the best part of a trip is coming home and watching your child run full speed to the door to great you.

 

[vectorvictor]

A husband and wife certainly is a family. Not everyone in this world wants kids, and it's not the inevitability you make it seem.

Glad it works for you, but it isn't for everyone.


I think you may have gotten yourself into the wrong business...

Wz up bud. I agree. I think there should be a waiting period for married folks to have kids. Give you a chance to get to know each other before having to clean puke off of the microwave. I suggest using other people's children as test subjects for short periods of time.

VV

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Having kids is no different than raising a dog that slowly learns to talk.

 

[WSurf]

Having kids is no different than raising a dog that slowly learns to talk.

LOL Too Funny

 

[General Lee]

General you only have a wife with no kids. You will see soon son that a overnight is a overnight is a overnight. Who the hell wants to fly to the middle east anyway?

Wait until you have a family. You will never ever wanna fly to those cities and be thousands of miles away from your loved ones. I love the fact that I have a couple of overnights that I can rent a car and drive 1hr to my house and spend my overnight home with my wife and kid.

All those cities sound cool as hell, but once you have a family being away from home sucks and all overnights are the same.

Your whole outlook and the crap you type will all change once you have a kids.

That could be the most ignorant thing I have ever read, this from someone who doesn't fly above FL180 and lives in the back woods. And, you really have no clue if I have any kids or not. Maybe my wife just had one, maybe she didn't. You never know. I actually get more time at home flying 3 day trips worth 20 or more hours, and I can do them back to back, since there is no 30 and 7 rule in INTL flying. Get educated my friend, and set the altimeter to 29.92 passing 18,000 ft (FL180).

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Well, you must forget I'm on the ATR. Love Hilton Head, and Myrtle Beach is pretty good too. Next up is Panama City. No Flint for me. Days off? I've seen lines go up to 18 days off on the jet. I usually get 12-16.

But have fun eating goat and avoiding dysentery in the armpit of the world. I'm sooooooo jealous. Carry on, General.

Do you think we ever actually stay in bad places? Our hotels are 5 stars primarily because of security reasons. That is a good thing. Ever been to Buenos Aires? It is like going to Europe, but warmer (due to our Winter is their Summer) this time of year. Beautiful women too. How about Frankfurt? (We stay in Weisbadden) Beautiful, and the Wintertime festivals are really nice. Hardly anyone gets dysentary anymore, primarily because people know where the bad restaraunts are. There is always good intel about food and things to do. Even in Africa we have deals on safaris, and only stay in very nice hotels that all the European Airlines stay at--like Air France.

Also, I go to PFN every Summer, and I have probably ridden on your bird.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

I bet that 777 bunk smells like the sleeper in an 18 wheeler rig.

I have been up there (jumpseating) and the 777 crew rest area is actually pretty nice. The 767ERs are also getting their own "pill box", and they are nice too. It beats trying to sleep next to first class passengers in your own seat. I would say it is ten times better than it used to be. We also get first class meals and can watch a first run movie if we want. Not too bad, and a 3 day worth over 20 hours is pretty nice.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I myself, am going Int'l next summer so that I can back load trips. Being gone for nine to 12 days a month is not bad. I like the fact that I could commute from anywhere in the country to Int'l at DAL. Doing in once or twice a month is better than doing it every week. I have a family and our decision is to have me gone more at one time and less as a whole. Int'l does put you farther away from family, but it gives you more quality time at home.
One six day and a three day or two, or one 12 day a month will suck while doing it, but at least I will be home long enough to do more than change the underwear out of my bag.

 

[General Lee]

I myself, am going Int'l next summer so that I can back load trips. Being gone for nine to 12 days a month is not bad. I like the fact that I could commute from anywhere in the country to Int'l at DAL. Doing in once or twice a month is better than doing it every week. I have a family and our decision is to have me gone more at one time and less as a whole. Int'l does put you farther away from family, but it gives you more quality time at home.
One six day and a three day or two, or one 12 day a month will suck while doing it, but at least I will be home long enough to do more than change the underwear out of my bag.

It is your choice. You are going to be away for 3-6 days anyway, but now you are at the Trevi Fountain in Rome or you can be downtown in Denver. You can do 4 legs in a day and end up in Miami, or you can have an expensive beer in Dublin. It is called having options.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ACL65PILOT]

exactly. It is why I turned down my SWA interview. It is about each pilots personal choice.

 

[scarlet]

Yeah and how do you feel when you get there at 4:30-5:00 AM(your time-8-10Am their time)and hotel room not really, and sleep for several hours, which is about 2-3pm when you get out of bed and have to be back in bed in about 8 hours for the van in 15 hours when you get up from the nap? Tell the truth. Yeah you communte into your Dominicle and get in about 2 hours before duty in about 1-2 pm (got up at 8am)then check in at 5 or 6 pm and then make an annoucment ladies and Gent. flight time 8-12 hours to go=and when you get there you are blood shot red eyed wearing sun glasses through the airport.=FUN