Delta Fosters Diversity... I'm gonna be sick

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

The problem with your theory is that while they're attracting the loyalty of this group of people, they're upsetting a far larger group of people (the average person that thinks this stuff is disgusting). If I was a paying Delta customer, I think I might take my business elsewhere to an airline that doesn't contribute to causes that I find disgusting. This is not good business.

Yeah, take that business straight (or gay?) to AirTran who paints Sir Elton John all over the plane. I believe I saw UAL supporting diversity in Chicago when I was up there. I'm sure each airline does it. Go ahead and inconvenience yourself by switching airlines to prove a point that nobody will see you proving (unless you come here and rant on these boards).

All these internet tough guys crack me up!

 

[PCL_128]

Yeah, take that business straight (or gay?) to AirTran who paints Sir Elton John all over the plane. I believe I saw UAL supporting diversity in Chicago when I was up there. I'm sure each airline does it. Go ahead and inconvenience yourself by switching airlines to prove a point that nobody will see you proving (unless you come here and rant on these boards).

All these internet tough guys crack me up!

It has nothing to do with proving a point numbnuts. It's about not funding things that you don't believe in. I'm not going to send a donation to Planned Parenthood because I think abortion is disgusting, so do you really think I would purchase the product of a company that donates to Planned Parenthood when I know that it's the profits from my purchase that are being donated? This isn't about being a "tough guy." This is simply about not supporting a cause that you don't believe in. Companies should stick to business and not social activism.

 

[Ty Webb]

So if we agree with this stupid waste of airline money we are open minded and intelligent. But if we disagree with it then we are a bunch of close minded morons?

Is that the way it works?

That's exactly the way the "Diversity Industry" works. If you question any of their nonsense, you are immediately branded a "hater" or making "hate speech". Unfortunately, our colleges and universities have been promoting this hogwash for so long that some of these kids just spout this stuff without questioning it.

 

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The problem with your theory is that while they're attracting the loyalty of this group of people, they're upsetting a far larger group of people (the average person that thinks this stuff is disgusting). If I was a paying Delta customer, I think I might take my business elsewhere to an airline that doesn't contribute to causes that I find disgusting. This is not good business.

I think the general public could give 2 $hits what the company is doing. They'll be happy as long as the price of their ticket is cheap, and they arrive on time. They also deal with these groups on a majority of all flights nowadays. So go ahead, inconvenience yourself, it's not going to change a dang thing!!!

 

[Ty Webb]

More from the "Diversi-Dolts".

The anonymous "Bunny" apparently has problems reading as well as writing . . . . "Bunny" also seems to think it is OK to ask me who I am, but remains anonymous. Anyway, here's "Bunny's" PM to me:

Still have problem? Do something about it.

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Why not do something about your feelings. I have never worked for anyone whose philosophy or way of doing business was against my own principles.

For you, you can reveal your identify, and write an open letter to Delta. Let them know that their policy 'sicken' you and you would not ever work for them. Be open about it. Also do the same on this board and you may find qutie a few willing to follwo your lead.
Then we'd really believe that you could 'walk the walk' and not just 'talking the talk'.

Be acceptable, and other will accept you!

Bunny

Earth to Bunny-

This string is about a company spending money to promote Gay Pride Festivals. You're right I don't support this use of funds, and if I worked for Delta, I would sure let them know about it . . . and I'll bet their customers will.

This is, after all, the Bible belt, and as soon as some of these "thumpers" get a hold of this one, it should become quite comical to watch from the sidelines.

 

[Dangerkitty]

That's exactly the way the "Diversity Industry" works. If you question any of their nonsense, you are immediately branded a "hater" or making "hate speech". Unfortunately, our colleges and universities have been promoting this hogwash for so long that some of these kids just spout this stuff without questioning it.

I find it ironic that these enlightened open minded liberals all talk about how people should have an open mind and respect others feelings and ideals. But when I voice my objections to events such as this I am labeled a biggot and a homo-phobe. Well, is my opinion any less valid than the pointy headed liberal who states I should have an open mind?

Open mind only means that you agree with their line of thinking.

That side of the fence gives new meaning to the word hypocrite.

 

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The problem with your theory is that while they're attracting the loyalty of this group of people, they're upsetting a far larger group of people (the average person that thinks this stuff is disgusting). If I was a paying Delta customer, I think I might take my business elsewhere to an airline that doesn't contribute to causes that I find disgusting. This is not good business.

Exactly

I just got back from my $40 hair cut in the inreasingly trendy part of town I live in. The staff is "diverse" and always a fun group of people to talk about current events with. All, meaning 100%, of the people from "Stevie," who considers himself "transgendered," to Beth, the Sunday School Teacher, were highly offended by Delta's actions. To sum up their thoughts:

"Why is Delta taking pay cuts from its employees and asking Congress to bail them out of their pension obligations - just to waste money on crap like this?"

This thread is relevant on this board because it shows that Delta is being managed by people who's first concern is not the health and survival of Delta.

AirTran is spending its money on wireless networking at all their gates to help out their business customers, XM radio, and increased frequent flier perks. These are broad based marketing efforts that don't offend anyone. More and more frequently I hear my Fortune 100 Clients who travel commerically about 65% of the time ( the other 35% being Corporate jets ) saying that they prefer Airtran's service. The reasons are obvious, Airtran is focused on their customers while Delta seems to be focused on pushing some bizzare agenda.

I don't care who you are - Delta's sponsorship of a book tour event for the author of "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star" and Youth Pride ( which goes to public schools and talks with children about their sexuality, as well as setting up homosexually focused clubs ) is pretty racy. For many of us it is distasteful and wrong.

At Delta, we employees give personal donations to the United Way and March of Dimes. Yet, there is Company money available to sponsor a speech about the "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star?"

Gays may, or may not, be headed for hell. But, I know for sure where Delta's stock is headed.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

I agree. Flying on a freaking airplane from point A to point B has nothing to do with your sexuality, race, gender, etc. Delta should have much bigger things on their plate right now than wasting time and money supporting the gay community. Gay, straight, who gives a dam? Its an airline not a dating community.

 

[MedFlyer]

This is, after all, the Bible belt, and as soon as some of these "thumpers" get a hold of this one, it should become quite comical to watch from the sidelines.

DL has been supporting these parades for the past two years with no real uproar from the bible thumpers. I doubt you'll see a big uproar now.

Many of the bible thumpers may not like that DL is supporting gay pride events, but if DL's fares are cheap, they'll keep flying DL. It's quite amazing how the almighty dollar can trump people's moral beliefs.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Exactly

I just got back from my $40 hair cut in the inreasingly trendy part of town I live in. The staff is "diverse" and always a fun group of people to talk about current events with. All, meaning 100%, of the people from "Stevie," who considers himself "transgendered," to Beth, the Sunday School Teacher, were highly offended by Delta's actions. To sum up their thoughts:

"Why is Delta taking pay cuts from its employees and asking Congress to bail them out of their pension obligations - just to waste money on crap like this?"

This thread is relevant on this board because it shows that Delta is being managed by people who's first concern is not the health and survival of Delta.

AirTran is spending its money on wireless networking at all their gates to help out their business customers, XM radio, and increased frequent flier perks. These are broad based marketing efforts that don't offend anyone. More and more frequently I hear my Fortune 100 Clients who travel commerically about 65% of the time ( the other 35% being Corporate jets ) saying that they prefer Airtran's service. The reasons are obvious, Airtran is focused on their customers while Delta seems to be focused on pushing some bizzare agenda.

I don't care who you are - Delta's sponsorship of a book tour event for the author of "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star" and Youth Pride ( which goes to public schools and talks with children about their sexuality, as well as setting up homosexually focused clubs ) is pretty racy. For many of us it is distasteful and wrong.

At Delta, we employees give personal donations to the United Way and March of Dimes. Yet, there is Company money available to sponsor a speech about the "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star?"

Gays may, or may not, be headed for hell. But, I know for sure where Delta's stock is headed.

You hit the nail right on the head.

 

[FlyBunny]

MedFlyer,

Well Said!

Fly safe,
Bunny

 

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Many of the bible thumpers may not like that DL is supporting gay pride events, but if DL's fares are cheap, they'll keep flying DL. It's quite amazing how the almighty dollar can trump people's moral beliefs.

If you notice, a lot of churches are very well funded. So much for your theory that the almighty Dollar is trumps people's moral beliefs.

When the low cost carrier has higher customer satisfaction in the high cost carrier's largest O&D city - your airline is in serious trouble regardless of what fuel costs in the spot market. When all your high cost airline can attract is those who base their decision on which airline is $1 less on Orbitz, you are ensuring a loss and Delta can not continue hemorraging money.

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

It has nothing to do with proving a point numbnuts. It's about not funding things that you don't believe in. I'm not going to send a donation to Planned Parenthood because I think abortion is disgusting, so do you really think I would purchase the product of a company that donates to Planned Parenthood when I know that it's the profits from my purchase that are being donated? This isn't about being a "tough guy." This is simply about not supporting a cause that you don't believe in. Companies should stick to business and not social activism.

It is business! They are targeting a certain demographic for advertising. They are trying to do it as quietly as possible. You don't see ads on TV saying "Delta, 1/2 off tickets for gays and lesbians!", do you? Whereas a gay pride parade, well you generally don't go to one of those unless you are that demographic. It's a fine plan and will create more business than controversy.

Yeah, there will be a few militant individuals who will disagree and Delta might lose a few customers because of it, but I'm sure they'll gain much more than they lose. I'm sure just about every airline sponsors things of this nature, so good luck finding a ticket on an airline with your same beliefs. Or will you digress from air travel altogether when you realize that homosexual males use the same restrooms as you in the airport? Will you then petition for separate bathrooms and drinking fountains? Good luck wit dat!

Next month when you get dumped by some girl are you gonna be mad that Delta has some advertising geared toward women?

 

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Burritos:

You make no sense. Who ever heard of advertising that you try to keep as quiet as possible?

The gay community is not that large and for the most part Gays avoid the Pride rallys like white folks for the most part avoid Klan rallys. My office used to be across from the High Museum in Atlanta, on 14th and Peachtree. The Atlanta Pride rally would start & finish in our rear parking lot, in front of Piedmont Park. Most Gays would not be caught dead, "out in the street with all those crazies."

So at best, Delta is targeting less than 10% of a minority which makes up less than 25% of the population in a Gay mecca like MidTown Atlanta. The other 98% of the population either does not care, or is offended.

No matter how you stack it - it is a stupid waste of money - theft of the life blood of our Company by someone who is using Company funds to promote their narrow minded agenda.

That tells me Delta is not being managed for the future.

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

Burritos:

You make no sense. Who ever heard of advertising that you try to keep as quiet as possible?

Do you figure some of Comair's concession money went to this program?

Why does that not make sense? Especially something like this, if you advertise to gays, you wouldn't put billboards up all over the city and run TV ads saying "we like gays, come fly Delta!". That would be a bit over the top. But if you keep it quiet by only advertising at places where gays go (ie gay pride events, gay magazines etc) then its no big deal.

Check out these blurbs I found on google after 5 min of looking:

AIRTRAN:
(Atlanta, Georgia) Singer Elton John's face is adorning 20 AirTran jets.

The move is designed to promote AirTran's launch of satellite radio at each passenger seat.

"The traffic controller this morning was calling it Elton One," AirTran spokesman Tad Hutcheson said.

Orlando, Fla.-based AirTran uses Atlanta as a hub and is one of the few airlines making a profit.

The airline has contracted with XM Satellite Radio systems to offer more than 100 channels.

The airline would not disclose details of its arrangement with John, who has a home in Atlanta and typically commands millions of dollars for corporate endorsements.

But AirTran did say it plans to give him a 6-foot-long model of a jet and a $50,000 check for the Elton John AIDS Foundation.


AMERICA WEST:
America West is offering discounts on airfare to some of the most popular GLBT events. Click "learn more" below next to each event to see how you can save up to 10% off our already low Coach and First Class fares.

CONTINENTAL:
Continental Airlines extends travel benefits to registered gay partners

Texas: Houston based Continental Airlines is now extending travel benefits to registered government sanctioned same-sex partners of retirees.


AMERICAN:
[size=-1]Kootenay Gay Pride spokeswoman Catherine Fisher said: "I'm personally ... In the US, American Airlines is a frequent sponsor and supporter of gay events. ...



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HMMMM Doesn't seem to be JUST Delta now does it? Hey guess what else I found, BUD LIGHT was sponsering the same gay pride event as Delta. Better not drink beer anymore!

 

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Why does that not make sense?

Check out these blurbs I found on google after 5 min of looking:

AIRTRAN:
(Atlanta, Georgia) Singer Elton John's face is adorning 20 AirTran jets.
The move is designed to promote AirTran's launch of satellite radio at each passenger seat.

Orlando, Fla.-based AirTran uses Atlanta as a hub and is one of the few airlines making a profit.

The airline has contracted with XM Satellite Radio systems to offer more than 100 channels.

Burrito Breath:

You answered your own question. AirTran promotes service (XM Radio) and makes a profit. Delta promotes a book called "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star" and loses Billions.

 

[say again]

a book called "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star"

I'm guessing this wasn't a national bestseller !!!!!

 

[GogglesPisano]

Didn't we have a thread just like this a few weeks ago?

I am in the fifth circle of hell (Flightinfo Dejavu.)

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

Burrito Breath:

You answered your own question. AirTran promotes service (XM Radio) and makes a profit. Delta promotes a book called "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star" and loses Billions.

What about the rest of the airlines promoting the same type of events that Delta is? Don't leave out key facts just to try to prove your point and make me look bad. Delta is not the only one doing this, and most airlines have been doing this for years! What's the big deal?

If you want to pinpoint Delta's financial woes on this one thing, then so be it. Gotta pin the blame on something to make you feel better? Fine. But Delta is not the only one doing this.

 

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Burrito Breath:

Delta promotes a book called "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star" and loses Billions.

I hated all of Dan Brown's other works of shart too.