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Delta Fosters Diversity... I'm gonna be sick

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~~~^~~~ said:
That tells me Delta is not being managed for the future.

Sure it is.

Greenjeans has his future private island in the Bahamas pretty much secured.

Leo has his future 90 foot yacht parked at his beach house in Nantucket paid for.

The future looks bright indeed.................
 
I think the thing that alot of us miss these days is that there really is no customer loyalty anymore. Whever people get the cheapest fares, they will go....whether thats from frequent flier programs or just plain giving away the tickets online. It used to really upset me when my airline or mesaba gate agents would completely blow things... not to mention the absolutely piss poor ramp service we get in MSP... (my hate for mesaba ground service cannot be described) but now I just make do with what I have... there's only so many times you can apologize each flight.
 
"Diversity is a key component of what makes Delta great. We strive to enrich and empower the lives of all of our employees and customers in the hopes that they will each realize their greatest potential."


What about those employees who feel homosexuality is wrong and prefer not to have it in their face when they come to work?. I suppose they dont have a place at the table when it comes to promoting "diversity."
 
dixieflyer said:
"Diversity is a key component of what makes Delta great. We strive to enrich and empower the lives of all of our employees and customers in the hopes that they will each realize their greatest potential."


What about those employees who feel homosexuality is wrong and prefer not to have it in their face when they come to work?. I suppose they dont have a place at the table when it comes to promoting "diversity."

Sorry, talk to your lawmakers about that. Employers cannot discriminate on the basis of sex, ethinicity or sexual orientation because it is a law. And I suppose the above statement is a byproduct of that law too.

There are bigger problems in this world to conquer than this. Suck it up and move on people.
 
Mmmmmm Burritos said:
HMMMM Doesn't seem to be JUST Delta now does it? Hey guess what else I found, BUD LIGHT was sponsering the same gay pride event as Delta. Better not drink beer anymore!

Well, now I have yet ANOTHER reason to avoid BUD Light.
 
As a professional pilot, I am greatly dissapointed with most of the comments made on this thread. Supporting the gay and pride event is to attract potential customers gay or straight. The gay and pride events is just not for gays and lesbians, they welcome anyone who is willing to show their support. Delta and many other major airlines show their supports too. I do agree that everyone has a right to an opinion, but making a rude remarks about any race or sexual orientation doesnt belong in the airline industry and it defintley doesnt belong on this thread. So what if Delta sponsors the gay and pride events? Delta also sponsors the Atlanta Opera and other events that takes place in Atlanta and other major cities Delta flies too. Does that mean Delta should not sponsor any of this events??? I think most of you with that mentality should really keep your opinions to yourself. If you really have a problem with demographics, then you are in the wrong business. So go ahead and trash talk me all you want. At least I have dignity and pride to show my support for Delta to attract all types of customers.
 
captjorge74 said:
I do agree that everyone has a right to an opinion, but making a rude remarks about any race or sexual orientation doesnt belong in the airline industry and it defintley doesnt belong on this thread.
How about this...sexual orientation doesn't belong in this industry PERIOD. Why is it that people feel the need to go around flaunting their sexuality, race, or other diversities in an environment where it is completely irrelevant and inappropriate? Sexuality, regardless of whether it is straight or gay, has its place...and that place is not at work, nor is it on a commercial airliner. They abuse their rights and freedoms by forcing who they are in the faces of those of us who don't really care or want to know. The only reason they get away with it is our increasingly liberal society that points fingers and yells "discrimination" the second someone disagrees with them and because of companies who use these "diversities" as a marketing scheme to try to make money.
 
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Captjorge:

Most gays would not be caught at a gay pride event any quicker than most white guys would be caught at a Klan rally. Delta is wasting money on an offensive fringe element while they are telling folks that they do business with that Delta can not pay its bills.

Which is more important:
(1) Keeping the obligations and promises you have made, or
(2) Promoting alternative lifestyles?

Where I come from a Company is expected to keep its promises.

No wonder only 8% of ASA employees trust senior management. We watch Gerald Grinstein lie about Delta's ability to fund its employees pensions while the Company pi$$es away money.

Why not promote honesty - that is a virtue I think we all can agree on.
 
captjorge74 said:
As a professional pilot, I am greatly dissapointed with most of the comments made on this thread. Supporting the gay and pride event is to attract potential customers gay or straight. The gay and pride events is just not for gays and lesbians, they welcome anyone who is willing to show their support. Delta and many other major airlines show their supports too. I do agree that everyone has a right to an opinion, but making a rude remarks about any race or sexual orientation doesnt belong in the airline industry and it defintley doesnt belong on this thread. So what if Delta sponsors the gay and pride events? Delta also sponsors the Atlanta Opera and other events that takes place in Atlanta and other major cities Delta flies too. Does that mean Delta should not sponsor any of this events??? I think most of you with that mentality should really keep your opinions to yourself. If you really have a problem with demographics, then you are in the wrong business. So go ahead and trash talk me all you want. At least I have dignity and pride to show my support for Delta to attract all types of customers.

2 questions:

1. Where are these rude remarks that you are referring to?

2. If I have a Moral Objection to something I know is wrong why is it I am the one with the wrong mentality? Some of us here have core beliefs and do not like our comapnies contributing to such events.

Using your logic it should be ok for major airlines to be contributing to KKK rallys. They are a demographic too, ya know.
 
Mmmmmm Burritos said:
Sorry, talk to your lawmakers about that. Employers cannot discriminate on the basis of sex, ethinicity or sexual orientation because it is a law. And I suppose the above statement is a byproduct of that law too.

There are bigger problems in this world to conquer than this. Suck it up and move on people.
We are not writing about discriminating, we are talking about promoting. And of all the causes Delta has to promote, this is the best use of their money?

If some folks at Delta want to promote anal sex and pedophilia, why can't they collect their own money, like we have to do for the March of Dimes and United Way?

There is no way you can say with a straight face that promoting a book tour for the author of "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star" is a more worthy cause than the March of Dimes.

Delta is headed for bankruptcy and is so far in debt that reorganization financing may not be available. Delta is #2, or #3, on the list of major airlines most likely to cease operatations. No, I'm not getting over it and if you were willing to take concessions to promote your job, you should also be concerned about Delta's future - if Delta is not around you can bet both pink cheeks on your festive butt that Comair will not be around either.
 
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~~~^~~~ said:
We are not writing about discriminating, we are talking about promoting. And of all the causes Delta has to promote, this is the best use of their money?

If some folks at Delta want to promote anal sex and pedophilia, why can't they collect their own money, like we have to do for the March of Dimes and United Way?

There is no way you can say with a straight face that promoting a book tour for the author of "Secrets of a Gay Marine Porn Star" is a more worthy cause than the March of Dimes.

You can read, so surely you have read, that Delta is headed for bankruptcy and is so far in debt that reorganization financing may not be available. Delta is #2, or #3, on the list of major airlines most likely to cease operatations. No, I'm not getting over it and if you were willing to take concessions to promote your job, you should also be concerned about Delta's future - if Delta is not around you can bet both cheeks on your festive butt that Comair will not be around either.


Promoting- ok... well take a look at this:
"Delta employees and their families walked the route of the Boston Pride Festival on Saturday, handing out Delta-branded Mardi Gras beads to the crowd of more than 200,000. The Delta Mini Cooper and D.J. Truck appeared in the parade."

Hmmm exposure to 200,000 people in one day where Delta is probably the only airline promoting themselves is a good investment in advertising in my eye.

Delta sponsers the Atlanta Braves. Not everybody likes baseball.
Delta sponsers the opera (someone else said that). Not everybody likes opera.

Delta's advertising department needs to find niches and promote these areas to be successful. Market share is vital and they need to get it any way they can.

The March of Dimes program is what it is. It's always been private sponsorship of someone walking a distance. That's how it works.

And you say not all gays go to these pride events, that is true. But I'm sure they read about it and hear about it.

To me advertising in niche markets like this is a good idea. Like I said, Delta sponsors the Braves, opera, Women in Aviation and gay pride. If you have a problem with one and not any of the others, that's your problem. Delta wants to get customers from wherever they can. If we had Martians living in a colony in Buckhead (which may or may not be true) you can be sure Delta would sponsor the Martian Pride Festival.

This is strictly business. I read Delta has been sponsoring pride events since 2003. If it didnt bring in additional income then, then why would they continue doing it?

And who says I work for Comair? :)
 
Mmmmmm Burritos said:
And who says I work for Comair? :)
Well everyone is the Delta family is taking some sort of concessions. At ASA we have had a 3.5 year pay freeze and our contract is under constant attack.
 
vtchaz said:
How is this relevant to this website or this forum in ANY way?

And if you think they're idiots not capable of running an airline maybe you're the one who needs an education. Fostering support and a presence with a segment of the market that controls such a large amount of disposable income is VERY good
business.

Very well said, this guy is a tool
 
You know, I have to laugh . . . . someone questions the appropriateness of Delta spending money to support a Gay Pride event, and of course, the PC police and the Diversity Nazis come out of the woodwork, claiming that somehow they are being "discriminated against" because their "cause" is being questioned.

I think some of you need to learn the difference between being "discriminated against" and simply "disagreed with", because just because someone doesn't agree with your lifestyle doesn't mean they are discriminating against you.

How's about leaving your love life at home? What's wrong with that? Geez, what a concept.
 
Ty Webb said:
You know, I have to laugh . . . . someone questions the appropriateness of Delta spending money to support a Gay Pride event, and of course, the PC police and the Diversity Nazis come out of the woodwork, claiming that somehow they are being "discriminated against" because their "cause" is being questioned.

I think some of you need to learn the difference between being "discriminated against" and simply "disagreed with", because just because someone doesn't agree with your lifestyle doesn't mean they are discriminating against you.

How's about leaving your love life at home? What's wrong with that? Geez, what a concept.

At least you have a grip on reality and some common sense. Seems that is becomming more of a rarity anymore.
 
Ty Webb said:
You know, I have to laugh . . . . someone questions the appropriateness of Delta spending money to support a Gay Pride event, and of course, the PC police and the Diversity Nazis come out of the woodwork, claiming that somehow they are being "discriminated against" because their "cause" is being questioned.

I think some of you need to learn the difference between being "discriminated against" and simply "disagreed with", because just because someone doesn't agree with your lifestyle doesn't mean they are discriminating against you.

How's about leaving your love life at home? What's wrong with that? Geez, what a concept.

I agree with you in that there are some radical ideas about diversity out there. I for one wholeheartedly disagree with any sort of program that gives someone an advantage in getting a job over someone else more highly qualified just because they are a so-called "minority". But that is another debate.

Customers are customers no matter their background, and the more the better.
 
~~~^~~~ said:
If you notice, a lot of churches are very well funded. So much for your theory that the almighty Dollar is trumps people's moral beliefs.

What's that got to do with buying airplane tickets? So the same people who give money to their church which is against gays, then turn around and give money to an airline which supports gays because the tickets were cheap?

When the low cost carrier has higher customer satisfaction in the high cost carrier's largest O&D city - your airline is in serious trouble regardless of what fuel costs in the spot market.

LCC's always have higher customer scores than majors, because people's expectations when they fly LCC's are extremely low. WN gets very high marks for customer service despite the fact that they actually treat customers like retards. If DL (or any legacy) pulled half the stunts that WN did, people would have a fit.
 
AviatorTx said:
Every time my neighbors hang up their rainbow "pride" flag, I hang up a condfederate flag simply to prove a point. As soon as they take down the rainbow, I take down my flag. Needless to say, my neighborhood has been fag-flag free for over two years.

Wait, you put up a flag that represents human SLAVERY and oppression to combat your problem with a gay pride flag?

Someone, please, we need to start educating these southern republicans...

Douchebag... :rolleyes:
 
FYI.....
For those of you without marketing degrees. Gays and Lesbians have more money to spend than any other group of people in the US. Delta is just trying to capture that revenue. There is NO difference between this and any other marketing plan they ever had. Its all about capturing a demographic.

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9726

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9617

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9629

http://news.delta.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=9709


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