Delta Announces 50 Additional Pilot Furl

[ex nav]

Delta Announces 50 Additional Pilot Furloughs

Delta Air Lines plans to furlough an additional 50 pilots as of Oct. 1, according to the Aug. 26 edition of the Aviation Daily. The new furloughs will bring the total number of pilots on furlough at Delta to 918 as of that date.

 

[ALCOHOLIC]

What will be the DOH of the most senior furloughed Delta Pilot?

 

[tbkane]

I believe we are back to May 2000.

 

[rapidD]

Lots of interesting times at DAL coming up. The proposed code share with NWA and Continental requires ALPA approval (from all 3 carriers I think). Speculation is that the company will offer recall and a new 100 seat alternative scale for approval of the code share agreement. In any event, code shares spell less hiring and less opportunity for those wanting to move up to the majors. DAL is still crying FM which, in itself, is posturing. The times they are a changin'.

 

[COEX-FO]

NWA and Continental requires ALPA approval (from all 3 carriers I think).

CAL Pilots do not have to approve this! Just management. The CAL Pilots are not happy about that either!

 

[tbkane]

Rapid D

Where do you get this info? If it is true I am very happy about it, but I have not heard it from the MEC or the DALPA website. Please post you source or pm me.

 

[mach none]

Where do you get this info? If it is true I am very happy about it, but I have not heard it from the MEC or the DALPA website. Please post you source or pm me.

How can more furloughs make you happy. I hope this is just a fast-fingered typo?

 

[CCDiscoB]

I certain he meant that he was happy to come back to a 100 seat RJ and a "C" scale.

Pilots can't complain about "RJs" if there is a line forming to fly them. Why should Delta pay main-line when their own pilots will come back for lower wages. Maybe we should arm pilots, so they can shoot themselves in the other foot.

 

[tbkane]

No I would be happy because it would get me back off furlough creating movement. The pay would be negotiated, but would not be any worse than express pay that I was allready getting. I would love to fly a 717 or a 737-600 at express wages instead of the desk I am currently flying.

All that being said I highly doubt that this rumor will come to fact, as I have heard nothing about it from our MEC.

 

[HA25]

I certain he meant that he was happy to come back to a 100 seat RJ and a "C" scale.

Pilots can't complain about "RJs" if there is a line forming to fly them. Why should Delta pay main-line when their own pilots will come back for lower wages. Maybe we should arm pilots, so they can shoot themselves in the other foot.

AMEN BROTHER ... We really are our own worse enemy.

 

[rapidD]

tbkane

Check your PM.

rapidD

 

[CCDiscoB]

Hey TBKane,

Would you accept a recall to ASA? Would you accept Delta Express but at a C scale? Which is what they want to compete with SWA. Just curious. I agree, lets get our furloughed bros back in the air, and away from whatever non-flying job they are currently wasting away at.

This thread, and a couple others, got me thinking. At what point does a pilot not accept entry-level wages? Does a Regional Capt., say at ASA, think about moving to Flight Options, and accept 25K a year, just because it’s a “move up.” Is it? I don’t think so. Flight Options doesn’t even have a retirement plan. Does a furloughed 737 FO think about going to the right seat at ACA? Or do we accept “the bed we made” for ourselves and not accept PFT or entry-level wages? Just wondering. I guess when you’re driving a truck as opposed to flying anything is better.

 

[checkessential]

Would you accept a recall to ASA? Would you accept Delta Express but at a C scale? Which is what they want to compete with SWA. Just curious. I agree, lets get our furloughed bros back in the air, and away from whatever non-flying job they are currently wasting away at.

I don't think so....

 

[NYRANGERS]

Get real

Guys, if we do get a new 100 seat jet it will pay around the same as the 737-200's at express. I can't see 2nd year going for less than $70 hour. Which I would hardly call a big step back or a B scale.

 

[tbkane]

No I will not go back to the right seat of something at a regional. Am I above that heck no! I just am making a lot more money outside of aviation than a new hire fo at a regional. I respect all those that are suffering doing that right now, I just don't want to do that again. (been there done that don't want to live in a crash pad all over again)

I will take an agreeable salary from the company that hired me in the first place. It will be as NYYANKEES said approximately what an express fo makes, or what an f100 fo makes at AMR or what a dc9-30 fo makes at NWA. Nothing more nothing less.

 

[Trout]

What is "express"

Thanks!

 

[tbkane]

express is Delta's low cost carrier out of Florida!

 

[turbo potato]

first of all..the rangers s*ck...second...dont believe anything he says..he supports the RJDC!!!!!

 

[NYRANGERS]

KH

first of all..the rangers s*ck...second...dont believe anything he says..he supports the RJDC!!!!!

I almost sent a serious blast to you. Then I remembered who you are. Thats blahsphemey(sp)

I think you have it backwards the RJDC sucks and the Rangers rule.............well maybe one day they will make the playoffs.

See ya,

PS only 3 more days to go