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Delta, TPG Assessing Bids for American Airlines Parent
By GINA CHON, ANUPREETA DAS and MIKE SPECTOR

Delta Air Lines Inc. and private equity firm TPG Capital are separately assessing possible bids for American Airlines parent AMR Corp., with hopes that AMR's troubles presents another opportunity for airline consolidation, people familiar with the matter said.

AMR filed for bankruptcy court protection in late November and is in the midst of restructuring its debt and cutting labor costs after it. Any bid for AMR likely would come several months from now. AMR could use the bankruptcy process to shed a trove of obligations that a buyer might be hesitant to assume.

TPG Capital prefers to work with a strategic partner for a possible American Airlines investment, some of the people said. TPG, which has expertise in the airline industry, has approached AMR about its interest, they said.

Delta has hired Blackstone Group as its financial adviser to assess a potential AMR bid, people familiar with the matter said. Blackstone helped Delta restructure in its 2005 bankruptcy.

After its merger with Northwest Airlines in 2008, Delta became the world's largest carrier, meaning a deal with American would draw antitrust scrutiny. American is the nation's third-largest airline by traffic.

Delta has conducted an antitrust analysis on a possible tie-up with AMR and concluded that with some concessions, such a deal has a good chance of getting approval from regulators.

In a letter to employees in December, AMR's new chief executive, Tom Horton, hinted at speculation AMR might be the target of a takeover while in court protection: "And as we've seen before in this industry, there may be opportunists who wish to acquire our company," he said.

It's not certain that a deal will materialize. AMR has stressed it's focused on reorganizing and remaining independent. Also, it's not unusual for potential suitors to circle around a company in bankruptcy proceedings.

AMR is currently working on a business plan that it could brief creditors on sometime in the next three months, said a person familiar with the matter.

AMR and its various unions are also preparing for contentious labor talks that could take months to resolve.

TPG made its first investment in the airline industry in 1993 with Continental Airlines, which it helped turn around in the 1990s. TPG partner David Bonderman was chairman of Continental for a time. TPG was also a part of a consortium that tried to acquire Qantas Airways Ltd. but it didn't obtain the necessary shareholder approval for the deal in 2007.

TPG invested in America West International, which U.S. Airways Group Inc. acquired in 2005. TPG managing partner Richard Schifter was on the board of America West and was on the U.S. Airways board from 2005 to 2006.

TPG has past ties with American Airlines. In 2009, the private equity firm teamed up with AMR to possibly invest in Japan Airlines Corp. but the deal never came to fruition.
 
Didn't NWA do something with TPG and Midwest Airlines in MKE before the DL merger? As far as overlap and hubs go, I only see DFW and MIA as.viable options, whereas ORD is too close to MSP/DTW and JFK is a dual base for both airlines. I don't know though if any of this really could pass Gov't scrutiny. Good rumor fodder, though.


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TPG and LCC I would guess. DAL would be interesting, it would make for a huge airline and there would have to be some divestures but it would be good for the employees at AMR because DAL has decent pay levels and they might even be able to improve them if they are willing to "play ball" during a merger. I think the interest of multiple parties (there may be more) also increases the chances that AMR could be fragmented among several buyers. More than one suiter gives the creditors a lot more leverage over AMR management, it's a very different environment from the earlier bankruptcies where management had a lot of leverage. This industry is going to keep getting tougher for the smaller players.
 
Didn't NWA do something with TPG and Midwest Airlines in MKE before the DL merger? As far as overlap and hubs go, I only see DFW and MIA as.viable options, whereas ORD is too close to MSP/DTW and JFK is a dual base for both airlines. I don't know though if any of this really could pass Gov't scrutiny. Good rumor fodder, though.


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A hub at ORD could replace MSP and/or DTW. I think ORD has better local traffic than either of those markets albeit with more competition. The NYC area is where the divestitures would probably have to happen. This is bound to get interesting, it will put AMR management in a tough spot and the creditors will probably end up with a better deal.
 
If this happens, it will open up a million small airlines to start operations just like there was after Deregulation. Delta +AA, and UAL as CON U airlines will rely on their size and will over look smaller markets or niche markets. SW has some issues to work through with the merger and Kelly saying that they are too expensive so they may even miss some opportunities. DL and UAL would probably go after SW with every low cost RJ they have.

Just a guess. I may be talking out of my ars with details, but smaller upstarts will be on the horizon.
 
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There is no such thing as a low cost RJ. That is why they sucked the legacies dry.
 
If this happens, it will open up a million small airlines to start operations just like there was after Deregulation. Delta +AA, and UAL as CON U airlines will rely on their size and will over look smaller markets or niche markets. SW has some issues to work through with the merger and Kelly saying that they are too expensive so they may even miss some opportunities. DL and UAL would probably go after SW with every low cost RJ they have.

Just a guess. I may be talking out of my ars with details, but smaller upstarts will be on the horizon.

With oil at over $100 a barrel? Virgin America has been around for 5-6 years now and still hasn't made a real profit, and has to continually find financing. I see fewer airlines in total and more consolidation to bring up profits by squeezing more capacity. Buy up your competition and then cut back on capacity, just like what SWA is doing with AT in ATL. GK said there would be fewer total flights out of ATL after their merger is complete.


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There is no such thing as a low cost RJ. That is why they sucked the legacies dry.

Of course. Blame the regional guys and their terrible RJs for every economic failure suffered by the REAL airline pilots. I never get tired of hearing about that.
 
Never pass governmental approval.

Sounds like Delta already did the analysis and thinks with a few concessions, it could work. That was straight out of an article I just read. Maybe they know something you don't, and maybe there is a plan to break up an airline, and an alliance at the same time.


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Sounds like Delta already did the analysis and thinks with a few concessions, it could work. That was straight out of an article I just read. Maybe they know something you don't, and maybe there is a plan to break up an airline, and an alliance at the same time.


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I see your point, but I think the outrage amongst the employees would be similar to what Delta went through when UsAir tried a takeover. I just don't see it as anything else other than exploring the possibility. Just noise or manipulation of their stock or investor interest.
 
I'm willing to bet American employees are saying, "please delta please delta please delta".
 
Seems to me as the mega carriers consolidate, airlines Like VA. SWA, JetBlue and Spirit will find MORE opportunity, not less. The comment about RJ's kicking SWA's ass???? Correct me if I am wrong, but RJ's mostly feed mainline flights rather than compete head to head with anyone. Thinking you could use an RJ competing with a 737 or 717 seems like a stretch to me. This industry is morphing into a couple Mega carriers and leaving plenty of stones unturned in it's wake.
 
I'm willing to bet American employees are saying, "please delta please delta please delta".

I would think so too. Seems to me they could have some control. I.E if they are sure the DAL merger is a better deal for them they could co-operate, and make it clear that if they didn't respect the employee's wish's the corporation will deal with labor hell.
 
Eventually the major airlines of the World will be Skyteam Airlines, One World Airlines, and Star Alliance Air. Being able to dismantle one of those now by picking apart one of the founders of one of them (AA), could be a part of the plan.

And Dan, your airline could also be a target someday. It may be really tough to stay independent, especially if you have a profitable niche.


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JFK just isn't that big for AA.

TC
 
Didn't NWA do something with TPG and Midwest Airlines in MKE before the DL merger?

TPG purchased MidEx outright, taking the airline private. NWA was a very small party to that transaction.

This was during the time of AAI's unsolicited offer to purchase MidEx, which forced MidEx to look elsewhere, as the AAI offer would likely have gotten shareholder approval...

And, naturally, we know what became of MidEx.

Venture capitalists at work....but in all fairness, MidEx was not going to be viable long-term in their current form at the time of all that...


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TPG, airline managements, they all know each other very well probably. Maybe there is a "big plan".


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Eventually the major airlines of the World will be Skyteam Airlines, One World Airlines, and Star Alliance Air. Being able to dismantle one of those now by picking apart one of the founders of one of them (AA), could be a part of the plan.

And Dan, your airline could also be a target someday. It may be really tough to stay independent, especially if you have a profitable niche.


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Perhaps, but......Hawaiian is only doing well because they are Hawaiian Airlines flying to Hawaii. We have found that we can go to a large city and fill up a widebody with people that want to go to Hawaii on Hawaiian Air. We have a niche that will always be there as long as there is a Hawaii.
As soon as you paint another name on the side and take away our local identity, we would lose a lot of our value. The argument against that would be we fly about 60% of the passengers in and out of HNL, so if someone wanted to go after market share, it would make us a target. But if anyone tried, they would get stiff opposition locally, including from the Government as the local job loss would be felt.
 
I think the same is true for Alaska. There will be MORE opportunity for the niche carriers like SWA, AK,HAL etc, not less as the Mega carriers consolidate.
 
I think the same is true for Alaska. There will be MORE opportunity for the niche carriers like SWA, AK,HAL etc, not less as the Mega carriers consolidate.

I'd agree. Especially if you code share with a lot of different carriers.
 
Seems to me as the mega carriers consolidate, airlines Like VA. SWA, JetBlue and Spirit will find MORE opportunity, not less. The comment about RJ's kicking SWA's ass???? Correct me if I am wrong, but RJ's mostly feed mainline flights rather than compete head to head with anyone. Thinking you could use an RJ competing with a 737 or 717 seems like a stretch to me. This industry is morphing into a couple Mega carriers and leaving plenty of stones unturned in it's wake.

RJ's aren't RJ's anymore. Some are the size of small 737's. And in a lot of cases, passengers prefer to fly on those EMB190's than a 735. The new horizon involves 100+ seat RJ's as the 50-70 seaters are phased out. That's why the majors are very hard core about restricting things with scope.
 
I just don't worry about it anymore. Nine years of furlough from AA just to come back and sit reserve in NY on a Superdedooper 80. Bring it all on. I've little to lose and am ready for anything...including another furlough (please don't throw me in that briar patch ;) ).
 
Perhaps, but......Hawaiian is only doing well because they are Hawaiian Airlines flying to Hawaii. We have found that we can go to a large city and fill up a widebody with people that want to go to Hawaii on Hawaiian Air. We have a niche that will always be there as long as there is a Hawaii.
As soon as you paint another name on the side and take away our local identity, we would lose a lot of our value. The argument against that would be we fly about 60% of the passengers in and out of HNL, so if someone wanted to go after market share, it would make us a target. But if anyone tried, they would get stiff opposition locally, including from the Government as the local job loss would be felt.

I agree with you Dan, but you would have to convince some airline CEO and his team of investment bankers and lawyers not to do it. If you are good at something and fill planes, you are a target and buying you would take competition out of the picture. That would ultimately be the goal. Other airlines also do well flying out of Hawaii too, and those 717s could remain with a different paint job and would still be full 6 months later.



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