Delta and college GPA

[General Lee]

Just go down to P'tree city and understand what you'd be getting into. Imagine your entire identity wrapped up in being a Delta pilot. Even on your days off; at the golf course, at the bar, at the restaurant, at the PTA meeting. Imagine.

I know people who love it down there. 25 min from the airport, good schools, and plenty of golf courses. You've obviously never been there. I'd move down there but I already have a nice house in East Cobb...


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[jonjuan]

ACT of 29 should be the standard, same as getting into a service academy. That would cut down the numbers. Much more uniform selection source than GPA

Agreed-cuts down on the xbox playing, fantasy football d-bags.

 

[DCAA320]

Why would airlines want to hire pilots with masters degrees? Seems like overkill unless the pilot wants to slither into a management job down the line.

You know that old cliche that there is no such thing as a stupid question, you proved it wrong.

Also, in the military, the government paid 75% of your tuition in the past.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

Whew...made it! My first 2 yrs I was an academic train wreck...handled things (like my sister's brain cancer) by drinking and partying until I felt better.
I joined the Marines and they got that out of me and made me get my sheeyot together. I did rather well after that but the gouge was in the hull...so the overall GPA is down there. But at least I have beat the minimum.
Thanks for all the replies fellas!

Good luck!

 

[Flash]

You know that old cliche that there is no such thing as a stupid question, you proved it wrong.

Also, in the military, the government paid 75% of your tuition in the past.

What does a masters degree bring to the table? Why not ph'ds then and we can all call each other Dr. All you need is to check the box that asks if you have a bachelors degree, this job isn't rocket science, although some seem to try to make much more out of it than others.

 

[waveflyer]

There are different theories on grading. When I was an undergrad the average gpa in the Northeast was about a 2.5, about a C+. In engineering it was about a 2.1. They wanted everyone to feel challenged.

In my master's program in California the average was about a 3.3 (engineering). I think about a 3.5 otherwise.

In law school in the Midwest, average was about 3.5. I think I had about a 3.7 and about 20% of the people had a higher GPA.

Down south and in the west they have certain things they want you to learn and if you learn those you get an A. In the Northeast they wanted to teach you what they could and when you got the test it seemed to be something you had never seen before. After looking at it a while you would start to see how to adapt what you learned to the test questions. So one man's 2.1 is another man's 3.9. How does one compare?

This is a really good point- even if stereotyping by region-
In California where I went to school, we had huge differences even within the UC system.

I wonder why recruiters aren't expected to have the critical thinking skills that we supposedly learned getting our good gpa degrees?

 

[waveflyer]

Don't forget their other dumb rule that you must finish a BS in 5 years or less. So if you took one college class right out of HS, then took off 3 years off while doing flight training before finally finishing up your degree part time while raising a family over the next 3 years then they're saying it took you 6 years to earn your degree putting you in a bottom tier........

Is this a requirement really?

 

[waveflyer]

Well, as someone on this thread noticed, actual skill and experience are not highly favored factors for a delta interview. It sounds like their going back to their old method. This was slowed somewhat after all of those crashes and accidents during the 80's. Please keep in mind that if they ever fail the IQ test and strike you may consider it an invitation.

What's this idea you've had on a few threads now that you're allowed to scab?
You aren't, no matter how you may "feel" about hiring requirements

If you don't believe me, feel free to test it out

 

[goahead]

Is this a requirement really?

Yes head of hiring said this at the women in aviation conference earlier this year.....

 

[pilotyip]

I wonder why recruiters aren't expected to have the critical thinking skills that we supposedly learned getting our good gpa degrees?

could it be because going to college has nothing to do with critcial thinking skills? How about the ACT of 29 good standard test, service academy standards?

 

[Whine Lover]

- If you didn't attend classes, went to the beach and smoked doobies, and still pulled a 2.26 shouldn't that count for something?

- I suppose one little Homicide ( reduced to Manslaughter ) is also disqualifying?

- How many DUI's is considered "excessive"?

- What's next...an airline hiring process that requires you send in a stool sample?


???


YKW

 

[waveflyer]

could it be because going to college has nothing to do with critcial thinking skills? How about the ACT of 29 good standard test, service academy standards?

If it doesn't, that's a problem with the college you went to, not with the requirement for college
Developing the whole person is something pilots should want- not passing one test

But I know you have differing opinions
I know, you can become delta AND SWA's head of hiring and set whatever standard you'd like

 

[Oakum_Boy]

College is supposed to help develop critical thinking skills. No one has any leaving high school. Digging sewer trenches is no help.

 

[pilotyip]

If it doesn't, that's a problem with the college you went to, not with the requirement for college
Developing the whole person is something pilots should want- not passing one test

right! Please, we are not talking about Yale, U of M, or even MIT as the universal example of getting a college degree and developing critical thinking skills; we are talking about a degree from Bumblebee State. The degree from Bumblebee State requires no time on campus, no classroom attendance, and only money. Yet the Bumblebee State will still check the box in the lower left corner, same as Yale. Many college graduatse tried getting into Navy Flight Training in the mid 60?s to avoid being drafted into the Army, many did not make it because the critical thinking skills required to have a high probability of successful program completion were in excess of those who attended college.

BTW That is why DAL used to hire pilots out of the Navy without college degrees, because that had proven that had the necessary level of critcal thinking skills

 

[waveflyer]

I don't think most of us went to bumblebee, so do you have a real example?