Delta adds two more cities, both NOT in West Texas

[General Lee]

Delta Offers Customers More of Hawaii With Two New
Nonstop Flights From Los Angeles to Lihue and Kona


Tuesday October 23, 9:56 am ET
LOS ANGELES, Oct. 23, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Delta Air Lines' (NYSE:DAL - News) customers worldwide will enjoy new connections to two of Hawaii's major islands as the airline adds nonstop flights between its Los Angeles gateway and Lihue on the island of Kauai and Kona on the ``Big Island'' of Hawaii, effective June 5, 2008. With the additional flights, Los Angeles will continue to serve as Delta's largest gateway to Hawaii with five daily round-trip flights from southern California to four of Hawaii's major destinations.
``The addition of flights to Lihue and Kona marks another step in Delta's efforts to establish the world's broadest network of destinations for our customers,'' said Glen Hauenstein, Delta's executive vice president - Network Planning and Revenue Management. ``These newest destinations will allow customers to explore the beaches of the Coconut Coast while enjoying the beauty of the Garden Island or snorkeling off the sandy shores off the Kohala coast, all with convenient flight connections through our growing Los Angeles gateway.''
Flights will be available for sale to customers today at delta.com and via other ticketing channels, based on the following flight schedules: Delta's new service between Los Angeles and Kona, effective June 5, 2008 Flight Departs Arrives Frequency 1767 Los Angeles at 12:15 p.m. Kona at 2:50 p.m. Daily 1768 Kona at 8:50 p.m. Los Angeles at 5:10 a.m.* Daily Delta's new service between Los Angeles and Lihue, effective June 5, 2008 Flight Departs Arrives Frequency 1735 Los Angeles at 12:00 p.m. Lihue at 2:50 p.m. Daily 1736 Lihue at 8:50 p.m. Los Angeles at 5:20 a.m.* Daily * Flight arrives the following day


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ASADFW7]

I was thinking how much more the General would post useless barbs at SWA then I stopped I was waisting my time with someone who tries to waste ours.

 

[vixin]

Just ingnore the loser Genital Lee. It makes FI much better.

 

[General Lee]

Thanks to both of you for replying. You guys will never learn. And, Lihue and Kona are NOT in West Texas. Am I wrong here?

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Scrapdog]

Delta Offers Customers More of Hawaii With Two New
Nonstop Flights From Los Angeles to Lihue and Kona


Tuesday October 23, 9:56 am ET
LOS ANGELES, Oct. 23, 2007 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Delta Air Lines' (NYSE:DAL - News) customers worldwide will enjoy new connections to two of Hawaii's major islands as the airline adds nonstop flights between its Los Angeles gateway and Lihue on the island of Kauai and Kona on the ``Big Island'' of Hawaii, effective June 5, 2008. With the additional flights, Los Angeles will continue to serve as Delta's largest gateway to Hawaii with five daily round-trip flights from southern California to four of Hawaii's major destinations.
``The addition of flights to Lihue and Kona marks another step in Delta's efforts to establish the world's broadest network of destinations for our customers,'' said Glen Hauenstein, Delta's executive vice president - Network Planning and Revenue Management. ``These newest destinations will allow customers to explore the beaches of the Coconut Coast while enjoying the beauty of the Garden Island or snorkeling off the sandy shores off the Kohala coast, all with convenient flight connections through our growing Los Angeles gateway.''
Flights will be available for sale to customers today at delta.com and via other ticketing channels, based on the following flight schedules: Delta's new service between Los Angeles and Kona, effective June 5, 2008 Flight Departs Arrives Frequency 1767 Los Angeles at 12:15 p.m. Kona at 2:50 p.m. Daily 1768 Kona at 8:50 p.m. Los Angeles at 5:10 a.m.* Daily Delta's new service between Los Angeles and Lihue, effective June 5, 2008 Flight Departs Arrives Frequency 1735 Los Angeles at 12:00 p.m. Lihue at 2:50 p.m. Daily 1736 Lihue at 8:50 p.m. Los Angeles at 5:20 a.m.* Daily * Flight arrives the following day


Bye Bye--General Lee

Wow...we're all very impressed.

 

[General Lee]

Wow...we're all very impressed.

You should be, CAL doesn't go to either. But, you do go to Guam and Yap, which I hope we eventually fly to also. You never know.....Have a great day in EWR.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[BID]

you guys crack me up.

 

[9rj9]

wow

I feel better already.

GenLee you guys ready to give up those 100 seaters !!! I know you will.... weak sister.

 

[General Lee]

GL You forgot to tell us how much you got in your claim distribution and your note distribution. You brag like some little *********************************** running around the school yard showing off something that his mommy just bought for him.
Folks,please remember, GL has done nothing to help Delta with it's current success. He did vote to drop to his knees and blow all of the DL execs and vote to allow the termination of the pension and health benefits of all of those who worked so hard to make DL a decent place to hang one's hat. When this *********************************** posts about DL's recent success, he should be shamed into shutting his computer off and never turning it on again.
Please everyone, ask this little *********************************** to shut his f'ing mouth once and for all!!!!

OOOOOOKay then......? Say what? I think this one needs to go to the moderators. Yeah, a little bit on the weird side. Ummmm yeah. Your dad needs to know about this. Getting sexual on here shouldn't be allowed. You know that, right? Luuuuu-zer.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Benhuntn]

Now all those retired DAL pilots can fly there and live the high life with their great retirement package.

 

[General Lee]

I feel better already.

GenLee you guys ready to give up those 100 seaters !!! I know you will.... weak sister.

Hillarious. First of all, we are still getting a raise, and more than the mandatory. If we set an ACTUAL number to be above for a larger raise, then we should actually HIT THAT to get it, right? I am sure our ALPA people have their own financial advisors looking it over, so if we didn't hit it (maybe due to higher oil?), then that is the way it goes. It is all about being realistic. If oil was $45 a barrel and this happened, I would be a little bit more skeptical. You guys at UPS can raise prices thanks to less competition---so why aren't you paid $500 an hour? What is your excuse? Oh yeah, Sen Ted Stevens may ask for cargo Cabotage from Congress and your company might outsource your jobs to Air China. You never know Brown stain.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[TAZ MAN]

OOOOOOKay then......? Say what? I think this one needs to go to the moderators. Yeah, a little bit on the weird side. Ummmm yeah.

Bye Bye--General Lee

General if people here were banned for being a little on the weird side you would be banned for life.

Why did you hide when someone actually rationalized the hedge issue on another thread?

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=104592&page=6

Just thought I might make it easier for you to find.

 

[General Lee]

Now all those retired DAL pilots can fly there and live the high life with their great retirement package.

Most were given most of what they were owed. The PBGC was made "whole" by the claim sale, and the retired pilots also got an $800 million claim themselves. Some lost some healthcare benefits, but hey, we did go BK. I think most got more than they thought they were as we were going into BK. But, you knew all of that already.....? Lu---zer.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

General if people here were banned for being a little on the weird side you would be banned for life.

Why did you hide when someone actually rationalized the hedge issue on another thread?

http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=104592&page=6

Just thought I might make it easier for you to find.

Thanks for that, I never saw that post because I was actually out of the country (not in ISP). I will address that. Anyone can say "woulda coulda etc"--but the fact remains in the numbers. Maybe had we not sold our hedges to SWA prior to BK--we would not have gone BK, and I would not have made an extra $280,000 in the claim sale. The numbers state that you made $162 million for the quarter, with a hedge windfall of $189 million. So, had you not made that money, you COULD have had a loss. Would your guys have speared that off and raised fares to make sure you didn't get a loss? Probably. You have had 66 or something consecutive quarterly profits, so I would think they would have tried to continue that. Remember, PROFIT is an OPINION. There are ways to move that around. But, without that hedge windfall, it would have been tougher to show that amount without raising fares, and helping everyone else. It is becoming tougher for Southwest to set the fares, primarily because your own costs are going up, and the hedges aren't covering for everything anymore. Your hedges still are great, but the US domestic market is becoming flat, and more LCCs are flooding the market. INTL expansion helps because the dollar is weaker, which makes INTL pax the ones filling planes. If it costs $1000 to fly to LAS from Frankfurt, that really is only $500 to them (2 to 1 for the Euro almost). It becomes cheap, but we know exactly how much it costs to make those flights profitable, and we price it accordingly and we are full on our INTL flights, and adding more. You are cutting back on your ISP flights in the meantime.



As far as being "weird", well, that guy got sexual--which shouldn't be allowed. He has nothing to actually say, so he tried to be funny with his sexual rant. It happens to me all of the time, people on here can't debate me, so they get testy and try to push the limits.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Benhuntn]

Sorry I couldn't get that last comment. My boat was sailing under a bridge and I lost satetlite. I am stll logging my night/instrument, in hopes of joining a major some day. Hopefully one that has given everything away and can only go up from there.

 

[General Lee]

Sorry I couldn't get that last comment. My boat was sailing under a bridge and I lost satetlite. I am stll logging my night/instrument, in hopes of joining a major some day. Hopefully one that has given everything away and can only go up from there.

There is enough water in West Texas to sail a boat? What you need to do is fly to Venice, Italy (on us no less) or Nice, France and see some really big boats--the ones airline CEOs have. Have fun in ELP.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[TAZ MAN]

General,

You really need to digest Dash Power's explanation of the hedges. Its not about making money on them. Its about making their fuel bill more of a fixed cost.

 

[General Lee]

General,

You really need to digest Dash Power's explanation of the hedges. Its not about making money on them. Its about making their fuel bill more of a fixed cost.

I understand that. It is still a windfall if you have them and others do not.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[TAZ MAN]

You say there would not be a profit but a loss without them. You point something like that out regularly. Do you think they do this as an investment or as part of their business plan.

 

[GuppyWN]

General,

Why do you have to be like that? You are a little man. Do you really think we have to fly to Venice (Italy that is) to be happy employees or to enjoy our flying jobs? You need to get over yourself. I feel sorry for you if you are that shallow. I'm very happy with the track record and employee relations at my company. I don't need Paris. I've got Herb and his legacy.

Ciao jerk,
Gup

 

[SWAdude]

I understand that. It is still a windfall if you have them and others do not.

Bye Bye--General Lee

You don't say that though. You say that SWA would not have been profitable without the hedges.

If you understand the point with hedges then answer this...if oil was trading for $50 dollars a barrel then would SWA have made a profit?

 

[Schiphol]

General...

Dude, if you read our 10Q we are hedged as well. Every finance outfit uses fixed income vehicles (hedges being one of them) to deal with variable consumables like oil and distillates.

Did some SWA dude sleep with your wife or something? We are TOTALLY different airlines, and I would argue we are both the best at what we do (right now).

SWA boys: good to see the profit swinging back to where you guys usually are. Good on ya....keep on keepin' on and good luck with the intl bit.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Why do all these threads have to turn into a contest based on bashing a fellow Flight Info member?

Route announcements are news and I'm interested to see who is flying where.... Individual FI members are not really news.

It would be better news if DAL was stretching their legs to more Pac Rim destinations. There are a lot of business ties between the US and the Philippines, Taiwan, etc....

 

[On Your Six]

Who cares what GL says? I find most of his posts relatively on target if you exclude his bombastic delivery. You guys who goad him along deserve his comments. What do you expect - he's been doing this for years. When will you learn?

If you want uniform responses to every thread, don't come to FI. We have plenty of "characters" on this website and they both inform and sometimes entertain us. Don't take the bait unless you can handle his responses - it's that easy...

 

[General Lee]

General,

Why do you have to be like that? You are a little man. Do you really think we have to fly to Venice (Italy that is) to be happy employees or to enjoy our flying jobs? You need to get over yourself. I feel sorry for you if you are that shallow. I'm very happy with the track record and employee relations at my company. I don't need Paris. I've got Herb and his legacy.

Ciao jerk,
Gup

Why do I do it you ask? Because of your reactions. I love it. It takes sooo little to get you guys all riled up. All I did was put something about "West Texas" in the title of the thread, and nothing else in my initial post. What happened next? A FIRESTORM. Hillarious. By the way, we will allow jumpseats to Lihue and Kona for you corndogs. Welcome onboard---Aloha and Mahalo. I am glad you have Herb and his legacy. I have a great first class meal, followed by a 3 hour nap or a recent first run movie, and then a sunrise landing to a wonderful hotel, followed by a little nap, a run or a little weights, and then a great meal with beer while watching Euro babes. Ciao indeed.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

You don't say that though. You say that SWA would not have been profitable without the hedges.

If you understand the point with hedges then answer this...if oil was trading for $50 dollars a barrel then would SWA have made a profit?

I am sure Southwest would have been profitable regardless. Were they not profitable when oil was that low? We all were, excpet we at Delta and other legacies were making a TON more money. Your fixed costs were less back then too, and ours were sky high. After BKs etc, we are back down to a level playing field, but your actual fixed costs are going up, and without those hedges, it would be tougher for you to post that profit. With domestic fares going flat, and your fixed costs rising, guess what you are doing now that you have NOT done in the past? Raising FARES. Thanks. That helps us all.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

General...

Dude, if you read our 10Q we are hedged as well. Every finance outfit uses fixed income vehicles (hedges being one of them) to deal with variable consumables like oil and distillates.

Did some SWA dude sleep with your wife or something? We are TOTALLY different airlines, and I would argue we are both the best at what we do (right now).

SWA boys: good to see the profit swinging back to where you guys usually are. Good on ya....keep on keepin' on and good luck with the intl bit.

Dude, who are you again? Nevermind, I don't really care. You are named after a nice airport though. Wow, that is fantastic.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Why do all these threads have to turn into a contest based on bashing a fellow Flight Info member?

Route announcements are news and I'm interested to see who is flying where.... Individual FI members are not really news.

It would be better news if DAL was stretching their legs to more Pac Rim destinations. There are a lot of business ties between the US and the Philippines, Taiwan, etc....

We don't have enough planes to do that, yet. If we bought Hawaiian Air, then maybe.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ASADFW7]

Lets us not forget, the title of this thread was a jab at SWA. It was not simply a aviation headline, it was a member of this board trying to stir up crap. This is not a debate as it could be this is an insult. It is passive aggressive. He calls attention to himself and then cries foul like he is the victim. You get what you ask for General. If you want to be treated with respect be respectful. If you want to be treated in a way that you dislike continue on with antagonizing other members.

Simple enough can you do it?

 

[General Lee]

Lets us not forget, the title of this thread was a jab at SWA. It was not simply a aviation headline, it was a member of this board trying to stir up crap. This is not a debate as it could be this is an insult. It is passive aggressive. He calls attention to himself and then cries foul like he is the victim. You get what you ask for General. If you want to be treated with respect be respectful. If you want to be treated in a way that you dislike continue on with antagonizing other members.

Simple enough can you do it?

Look pal, plenty of people took pot shots at us during BK, and I allowed the flak. Why can't you? Reading that title of the thread, doesn't that make you laugh just a little? It made me laugh, and so did the responses. Cool down my baby, and enjoy AMA. I am not on here to earn your respect, I am on here because I learn some things, post some things, and overall I enjoy it. I don't turn off the computer at night with tears in my eyes. (well, not that often) Night night.

Bye Bye--General Lee