Decade long rumor of SWA buying Q400's back

[maru657]

I think after the last couple of attempts to merge with other carriers, Southwest will eventually outsource. Economic incentive will probably force such an outcome.

 

[waveflyer]

I think after the last couple of attempts to merge with other carriers, Southwest will eventually outsource. Economic incentive will probably force such an outcome.

Yeah maru,

And then we'd strike and you would justify crossing, right?

 

[scoreboardII]

Now do the real math. Phx-Flg isn't the ticket people are buying. They're buying XXX-FLG.

OK

FLG-TPA Kayak= $590-611 USair using Kayak
PHX-TPA= $190 SWA

$400 dollar difference for the honor of flying FLG to PHX.

 

[fr8doggie]

OK

FLG-TPA Kayak= $590-611 USair using Kayak
PHX-TPA= $190 SWA

$400 dollar difference for the honor of flying FLG to PHX.

PHX-TPA American (probably USAir) $190
using Orbitz

What's your point?

SWA is within a few dollars of the Legacy's.

If you had Q400s would SWA charge $187 FLG-TPA?

 

[scoreboardII]

What's Americans price FLG-TPA? Orbitz=$581.

The point which you refuted is, the segment cost is much higher for the shorter flight to FLG.

 

[fr8doggie]

You're right. What do you think SWA would charge for that?

 

[freightdogfred]

OK

FLG-TPA Kayak= $590-611 USair using Kayak
PHX-TPA= $190 SWA

$400 dollar difference for the honor of flying FLG to PHX.

That funny math again...cheapest fare I saw was 599$

http://www.southwest.com/flight/sel...2272A5&ss=0&int=HOMEQBOMAIR&companyName=&cid=

 

[27 driver]

Reading not your strong suit?^^^

I agree with blended- BUT in any case we fly it.

Ya Wave. You are the only one who can read. Go back and read the post again. No mention of blended rates. You are pretty full of yourself though. Must be a hoot to fly with such a know it all. Once again.... Keep dreaming.

 

[27 driver]

So if we get a smaller and a larger type - you want to set up the same old failed legacy system that doesn't really work for any party involved?

What part are you arguing for?
$10-
Chasing carrots as mgmt plays that divide and conquer game
Significantly more pilots in the training pipeline unproductive jobs program??- has anyone ever loved going to school every few years??)
Pilot dynamic where pilots have to fly the bigger plane to make money even if they don't want to and it's hard on the body-

It's not like this is unprecedented- UPS

And believe me, if REALITY were set in stone I'd have never accomplished anything

I didn't say I wanted anything and I'm not arguing for or against blended rates. They work great at UPS and probably would at LUV if they set them up 40 years ago. Once again read the post before you start name calling. What I am saying and I will type it very slowly for you. You will not get the votes you need from SWAPA pilots for it to pass. It's just that simple.

 

[PropPiedmont]

OK

FLG-TPA Kayak= $590-611 USair using Kayak
PHX-TPA= $190 SWA

$400 dollar difference for the honor of flying FLG to PHX.

Tuesday:

CLT-PHX = $379

CLT-PHX-FLG = $376

Figure that one out.

 

[slaquer5]

Greedy and dumb

I agree with 27

I would vote no for blended rates. I do not think many would vote for it .

 

[Kermit_D_Frog]

Funny Wave chastising someone for his ability to read [and presumably comprehend.] Try reading my post again. I didn't say I wanted to outsource. I said if we don't get rates for little airplane captain that are equal to or better than 737 FO, we might as well outsource since the outcome would be the same. I'll never vote to relax our language for any reason in case you are wondering.

Of course, if we had iron clad (as if) language that would restrict the small airplane flying to only cities smaller than "X" that we don't already serve, maybe that would work. The problem with that theory though is that the language never really says what we think it says.

 

[waveflyer]

I didn't say I wanted anything and I'm not arguing for or against blended rates. They work great at UPS and probably would at LUV if they set them up 40 years ago. Once again read the post before you start name calling. What I am saying and I will type it very slowly for you. You will not get the votes you need from SWAPA pilots for it to pass. It's just that simple.

Aww, sensitive feelers -

I disagree with your assessment of reality.

Please explain why 40 years ago it would work, but not today-
We have one pay rate now.

 

[freightdogfred]

Yeah maru,

And then we'd strike

Ha Ha that's some funny stuff right there

You need to ease up on whatever you're drinkin or smokin

 

[waveflyer]

I agree with 27

I would vote no for blended rates. I do not think many would vote for it .

Why would you?

If you give that answer, then please answer the questions I asked earlier-

Do you want the expensive training pipeline that is exacerbated by different rates? Do you want the financial pressure to bid flying you might not want to do later in life, but is now competing with taking care of your family? Are you willing to suffer the long term contractual losses that will occur once we are divided monetarily?
Have you flown at a legacy and experienced those divisions? (We have enough demographic divisions already, I promise you)

Remember, once that wedge of our most important contractual concern, it will be hard to undo.

We will not be as strong and our QOL will suffer with different rates

The proof is in everywhere that has it.

The UPS friends that I have ALL love the one rate- it gives a freedom that no other carrier has

That's freedom we enjoy today bc all our pilots do all the flying.

I'm not sure many of you understand what not having that will do to this career.
Not the biggest issue, but it's not positive. At all.

Btw, I've talked about this with dozens of pilots and the vast majority want one rate no matter the type