Days off per month at ATLAS

[linecheck]

Saw that the application window just opened up at ATLAS. Curious to know how many days off guys are getting on the 767 vs 747. What's the junior base there? Is JFK or ANC senior?

Thanks for the info

LC

 

[captainv]

Saw that the application window just opened up at ATLAS. Curious to know how many days off guys are getting on the 767 vs 747. What's the junior base there? Is JFK or ANC senior?

Thanks for the info

LC

I'm a 767 guy, but it seems like 747 guys fly 17-day patterns fairly regularly. Not so much on the 767, I'm typically gone 14-15 days per month.

ANC, HSV, CVG and LAX are junior on the 747, in that order. I've been on property 1.5 years and couldn't currently hold IAH, JFK or MIA on the 747. CVG is junior on the 767.

 

[linecheck]

By your description, it's about 17 days on, followed by the rest of the month off? So basically, between 11 and 14 days at home per month, if I understand that right. How is the routine once on the road? Pretty busy? Or do the layovers provide some good rest in between flights?

Thanks for the info... greatly appreciated.

LC

 

[Talon757]

By your description, it's about 17 days on, followed by the rest of the month off? So basically, between 11 and 14 days at home per month, if I understand that right. How is the routine once on the road? Pretty busy? Or do the layovers provide some good rest in between flights?

Thanks for the info... greatly appreciated.

LC

You can figure on being out 17 days although sometimes it's less. Sometimes they are all in one block and sometimes they are spilt up. I always try and bid for keeping it in one block because it keeps the travel from home to work down. On the bright side, because of the CTR (Calculated Rig Time) if you do work 17 days you are certain of a little over 18 hours of overtime even if you spend the entire time sitting in Hahn enjoying pils and jaegershnitzel. (hasn't happened yet!)
Crew rests run from minimum to several days. Most are in the 24 to 36 hour range. Keep in mind, these numbers are for the 747.

 

[captainv]

By your description, it's about 17 days on, followed by the rest of the month off? So basically, between 11 and 14 days at home per month, if I understand that right. How is the routine once on the road? Pretty busy? Or do the layovers provide some good rest in between flights?

Thanks for the info... greatly appreciated.

LC

you owe the company 17 days per month. might be one long pattern, might have a few days of home reserve on either end of a trip, might be broken up into smaller pairings, might be a whole month of home reserve. I like bidding 60-day lines, which this time has three shorter pairings. If you were based in ANC and lived in Florida, for example, you could easily spend 2 off days on each end of your pattern commuting.

Domestic DHL on the 767, esp. the MSP-TOL-CVG-TOL-MSP run at night, is as bad as it gets, but you get weekends off. On the 767 internationally, our longest leg is @ 11 hours, so you typically get plenty of rest between flights.

Schedules change all the time, both before the trip starts and once on the road, but you usually have at least a day's prior notice. You're bidding a work footprint more than you're bidding a specific trip.

 

[linecheck]

Thanks very much for the info! It seems like the QOL can be pretty good if you live in one of the bases. Hypothetically speaking, if I were to live in ANC what percentage of the trips involve a DH to the aircraft, versus flying it straight out of base? In this scenario, I would assume there is no commuting on your off-time as you would be living in-base. Thanks again- LC

 

[captainv]

Thanks very much for the info! It seems like the QOL can be pretty good if you live in one of the bases. Hypothetically speaking, if I were to live in ANC what percentage of the trips involve a DH to the aircraft, versus flying it straight out of base? In this scenario, I would assume there is no commuting on your off-time as you would be living in-base. Thanks again- LC

any time a trip starts out of base, you don't have to give up a day off. can't help you with info on ANC trips.

 

[altimaklr]

Is it common or even possible to bid back to back 17-day blocks, so you can get a month off in a row?

 

[ASACAPT]

I have not seen any 60 day lines constructed that way, but I suppose you can work the first 17 day of month 1 and the last 17 day in month 2 effectively giving you approx a month off spread over 2 bid periods.

 

[captainv]

You could, but you'd likely have some free time in base between trips. Heavy rest requirements could make you illegal for back-to-back pairings. Also, you have to agree to having less than 5 days off between trips, and if you have less than 48 hours in base, they get you a hotel (taxable) but not a ticket home.

 

[OrionFE]

What do you pay for health insurance?

 

[unwashed]

2011 Monthly Premium 2011 Monthly % of Premium
Equivalent Rates Crew Contribution Equivalent
Medical Open Access Plus (PPO)
Single $618.45 $154.61 25.0%
Employee +1 $1,236.91 $309.23 25.0%
Family $1,855.37 $463.84 25.0%
Medical Open Access Plus In Network (EPO)
Single $661.07 $125.60 19.0%
Employee +1 $1322.13 $251.20 19.0%
Family $1983.20 $376.81 19.0%
Medical HMO (EPP)
Single $588.95 $111.90 19.0%
Employee +1 $1,177.90 $223.80 19.0%
Family $1,766.95 $335.72 19.0%
Medical ? Out of Area (OOA)
Single $630.83 $88.32 14%
Employee +1 $1,261.65 $176.63 14%
Family $1,892.47 $264.95 14%
Medical ? Safety Net (Catastrophic)
Single $562.08 N/A N/A
Employee +1 $1,124.16 N/A N/A
Family $1,686.22 N/A N/A
Dental PPO
Single $38.29 $11.49 30.0%
Employee +1 $76.58 $22.97 30.0%
Family $114.87 $34.48 30.0%
Dental HMO
Single $24.02 $4.80 20.0%
Employee +1 $41.85 $8.37 20.0%
Family $70.76 $14.15 20.0%
Vision
Single $7.96 $5.54 69.6%
Employee +1 $11.47 $8.78 76.5%
Family $20.57 $15.72 76.4%

 

[OrionFE]

Thank you!

 

[AftCG182]

Are there any ex-Fractional folks over there?

 

[FRACTRASH]

I applied on line twice now and still haven't heard anything. It has been a couple months now. Is there any way to be sure they did receive all your information. It would be nice to talk to a actual person.

I have 10+K and all the Jet/FMS/Glass time they like. I've been with my Fractional company for 10 years. Flew 121 with the regionals before that. How does one stand out?

 

[captainv]

I applied on line twice now and still haven't heard anything. It has been a couple months now. Is there any way to be sure they did receive all your information. It would be nice to talk to a actual person.

I have 10+K and all the Jet/FMS/Glass time they like. I've been with my Fractional company for 10 years. Flew 121 with the regionals before that. How does one stand out?

Great questions, no easy answers.

- it's only been a couple of months. A friend of mine was flying the 747-400 at another company and it took 1.5 years to get the phone interview. If the email wasn't returned, I would assume they received it. If you did some digging, I'm sure you could come up with the phone number of our HR person. Up to you if you want to call and ask if they received your app.

- how does one stand out? an internal rec would certainly help, but plenty of applicants have those as well. I would recommend you give it some time. two months is very, very recent in terms of applying. Plenty of guys have had their apps in for far longer. The number of interview spots is dwarfed by the number of apps. You might stand out simply by being a frac guy, i've met a few here, but all were at other airlines when they came over.

 

[FRACTRASH]

Great questions, no easy answers.

- it's only been a couple of months. A friend of mine was flying the 747-400 at another company and it took 1.5 years to get the phone interview. If the email wasn't returned, I would assume they received it. If you did some digging, I'm sure you could come up with the phone number of our HR person. Up to you if you want to call and ask if they received your app.

- how does one stand out? an internal rec would certainly help, but plenty of applicants have those as well. I would recommend you give it some time. two months is very, very recent in terms of applying. Plenty of guys have had their apps in for far longer. The number of interview spots is dwarfed by the number of apps. You might stand out simply by being a frac guy, i've met a few here, but all were at other airlines when they came over.

Thanks

 

[captain822]

Just curious, how senior is LAX? And how are the LAX trips?

 

[thunderworm]

been applying for almost two yrs and have similar times- nothing. not sure what the code is but for now Ill keep applying and maybe they will get annoyed at seeing my apps and call me.

 

[Russ]

An acquaintance was hired there last year. Compared to those inquiring here, was low time. Under 5K and minimal turbine PIC, most of it being on a single engine TP. I wonder if that might be the target group in an effort to hang on to them as long as possible? Others in this new hire class were low time as well. Who'da thunk having a lot of experience could have a negative associated with it.