DayJet Mins.

[Ultra Grump]

Where do you get that impression? Do you have any details? DayJet doesn't sound like a typical fractional or 135 operation. I think it's a bit early to be making those kind of generalized statements.

Simple economics, and a little forward thinking. How big do you suppose their LA (pick your airport)-Vegas and LA-SFO market will be (when they eventually start it, and they'd be foolish not to)? With LA-SFO maybe they can get away with only catering to businesspeople, but LA-Vegas will not just be businesspeople, and those people will want to travel 7/365. That's not the only market to which this applies. You want to work there, more power to you. But don't come crying here when management suddenly changes schedules on you. You can't say you weren't warned.

 

[cjdriver]

Wait

Maybe this operation will be different. I happen to know some of the management, and they're from the hi-tech industry. What does that mean? It means they understand that their company will fail or succeed on the backs of their employees. Think "Stock Options". From what I understand of these folks, they are very concerned about the QOL of the pilots, which basically are the company from the customers point of view. If this were a frac op, no doubt things would go downhill quick as demand increased. Maybe not with these folks., We'll see.

 

[Cavpilot]

From what I understand of these folks, they are very concerned about the QOL of the pilots

What an f-ing joke! Their VP of operations has made a career out of hosing pilots! You may want to look before you leap on this one.

 

[cjdriver]

I agree

The Comair hire does not sound good, but he won't be making decisions on their business plan.

 

[COEX-FO]

What an f-ing joke! Their VP of operations has made a career out of hosing pilots! You may want to look before you leap on this one.

I'm not quite sure what this guy did at Comair, but whatever he did it was with the blessings of upper management. Perhaps at DayJets, upper management will not tolerate actions similar to what his previous employer was willing to accept.

DayJets sound very unique and interesting. It will be on my radar screen for quite some time.

 

[rice]

I'm not quite sure what this guy did at Comair, but whatever he did it was with the blessings of upper management. Perhaps at DayJets, upper management will not tolerate actions similar to what his previous employer was willing to accept.

DayJets sound very unique and interesting. It will be on my radar screen for quite some time.

Good 'cause it'll look like a big fat Level 5 attempting to pound you into the dirt within one year. Mark my words, year one will be great. Lots of new hires touting that the company is the latest and greatest place on earth. year two will bring grumbling from the ranks about how promises are being broken and the "Head Shed" doesn't have a clue how to run an "airline". (Make no mistake, Day Jet is/will be an airline, albeit operating under 135.) Year three will will bring animosity and unrest from the ranks do to a lack of work rules and financial pressures as the company tries to gain critical mass. Sound familiar to you FLOP's and NJA people????
This is nothing more than a variation of whats been done before. Will it succeed? Who knows but I guarantee it will have many of the same old problems inherent to all aviation companies.

 

[gunfyter]

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...-bonuses_x.htm

Screeners make $23,504 to $44,580 depending on experience

The bonus "isn't going to retain anybody," said Kimberly Kraynak, a $39,000-a-year screener at Pittsburgh International Airport. She called $500 "a joke."

The screener attrition rate grew to 24.5% from about 15% in 2003

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What will be the attrition rate of Jet Captains making only $5K more than airport screeners? 500 PIC Jet to get hired demands a little more. "The gods must be crazy!"

We need my buddy Gulfstream 200 to get on this thread and give us all a dose of reality!

 

[Diesel]

G200 can't hes sitting in a marriott on the backside of the world waiting for his owner to decide to go home. Or maybe to just another country.

 

[gunfyter]

Diesel,

here is my favorite part of the article

TSA chief Kip Hawley told screeners in an April 20 newsletter that the longer they stay on the job, "the higher the performance of their security duties will be." Hiring and training a new screener costs $12,000

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Whats it cost to hire and train a new Jet Captain?

I wonder if the screeners have to sign training contracts?

 

[Diesel]

If you leave you have to give back the type rating in the x ray machine.