Day guarantee at Delta?

[EMBpilot]

Does Delta have a day guarantee?

Say 10 hours there, 10 hours back, 3 day overnight - what's the pay?

 

[Helos2Galaxy]

5+15 hours credit per day of flying.

 

[EMBpilot]

Thanks Galaxy
"Per day of flying" is not a layover, right?

So a hypothetical 5 day trip (see above) will pay 20 hours? Plus per diem of course.

 

[michael707767]

Thanks Galaxy
"Per day of flying" is not a layover, right?

So a hypothetical 5 day trip (see above) will pay 20 hours? Plus per diem of course.

no. You are protected by the trip rig also. I beliive the trip rig is 1 for 3, or something close to that. Pretty sure its one hour of pay for every three hours away from base. Someone else may know the exact numbers.

Look, I think our pay rates suck, and I can't believe the scope our union stuck us with. But, I give them credit on the work rules. If someone else has better work rules, I'd like to see em.

 

[328dude]

5 day trip? What's that?

 

[JohnQ]

no. You are protected by the trip rig also. I beliive the trip rig is 1 for 3, or something close to that. Pretty sure its one hour of pay for every three hours away from base. Someone else may know the exact numbers.

Look, I think our pay rates suck, and I can't believe the scope our union stuck us with. But, I give them credit on the work rules. If someone else has better work rules, I'd like to see em.

The trip rig is 1 for 3 1/2 hours away.

You are correct--we have good work rules. The same cannot be said for CAL, UAL, NWA, AAA (or whatever they are these days) etc.

 

[catIIIc]

The trip rig is 1 for 3 1/2 hours away.

You are correct--we have good work rules. The same cannot be said for CAL, UAL, NWA, AAA (or whatever they are these days) etc.

Yep work rules are something we badly need at CAL, 5:15/day and 1/3.5 trip rig is a good place to start.

 

[EMBpilot]

Thanks for the info guys.

Forgive me, but due to working for slavery promoting airlines I am not familiar with the trip rig.

Say if you fly 4 four day trips a month you will be paid at least:
(24*4*4)/3.5=109 hours?

 

[Newjetjockey]

No. You will be paid one hour for every 3.5 hours you are away from base. If your 4 day started at 8:00 on the first day and ended at 20:00 on the fourth day you would be paid a minimum of 24 hours for the trip.
(16+24+24+20)/3.5

 

[Indy refugee]

Thanks for the info guys.

Forgive me, but due to working for slavery promoting airlines I am not familiar with the trip rig.

Say if you fly 4 four day trips a month you will be paid at least:
(24*4*4)/3.5=109 hours?

Not exactly! It's TAFB. So, day one and four will be less than 24 hours. For example, show at 1500 on day one, finish day 4 at noon. So it's 15+24+24+12/3.5=21.4.

If you did it 4 times a months, it would yield 85.6.

 

[punkpilot48]

Is that 85.6 on top of your line value?

 

[EMBpilot]

Thanks, guys, got it!

What are the best rigs known in the industry now and in the past?
Anyone had/has 1 for 3 or 1 for 2:50 or better?

 

[The Victors]

Yep work rules are something we badly need at CAL, 5:15/day and 1/3.5 trip rig is a good place to start.

SWA is 6.5 min per day. No bragging intended, but that is what you should be shooting for!!

 

[JohnQ]

SWA is 6.5 min per day. No bragging intended, but that is what you should be shooting for!!

That's 6.5 SWA trips per day right, not hours? Since your "trip" equals 51 minutes, 6.5 trips equals 5.9 hour, or about 5 hrs 55 minutes.

Still pretty good!

I also believe that AA has a trip rig of 1 for 3.25, but I am not sure on that.

 

[Slug]

Pay at SWA

No, not really.

1. min pay per day is 6.5 (average over the trip). That would be 6.5 times my TFP rate. Mine is $104 per trip (5th year pay). 1-day min is 6.5. 2-day pays 13 min. 3-day pays 19.5 min. ............

2. Pay per day is duty hour rigged at .74 to one. So if I work 10 hours I will get a min 7.4 trips for the day. 7.4 x $104 12 hours would pay 8.88 times pay rate.

We get paid per day on whatever is higher of
a) actual flown
b) rigged pay

Once you get off the bottom of the list you are seldom paid on the rigs. 90% of the time you are paid by what you fly. You might get a day that is rigged but by the end of the trip your flying time has made up the difference.