DAL RJ order soon?

[Caveman]

General Lee,

"I know plenty of furloughed pilots at Delta that would love to fly some 70 seaters, and maybe 50 seaters if they weren't flown by people who had "CRM" problems."

That must be why there have been 'plenty' of applicants beating down ASA's doors to fly the RJ's. Afterall, ASA doesn't have any 'CRM' problems.

 

[General Lee]

Caveman,

You're right, not many have tried, but I do know some that have and they say it has been a good experience. That will be rewarded.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[rjcap]

You're right, not many have tried, but I do know some that have and they say it has been a good experience. That will be rewarded.

Well it looks like Comair will get the expansion out of SLC and ASA will get the short end of the stick. Thats the reward ASA gets for hiring the Delta castaways.

 

[ReportCanoa]

No, that's our reward for being the worst on time performer in the country. What a deal.

 

[VFR on Top]

The EMB 190 and 195 series aren't classified as "RJ" aircraft. If you notice, they carry the EMB label, not the ERJ label.

How then do you explain the EMB-120's designation?

 

[ReportCanoa]

'B' for Butt. He He He....

 

[DDpaysoff]

Well it looks like Comair will get the expansion out of SLC and ASA will get the short end of the stick. Thats the reward ASA gets for hiring the Delta castaways.

I wouldn't call it a reward.
1. For all we know Sky west will get 29 flights and comair will get one.
2. If Comair does get a substantial part of SLC it will be at the expense of LGA, DCA, ATL, or CVG. We are not getting enough aircraft to grow a whole lot.
3. Comair is a good operation w/ a lot of flexibility. DCI gives and takes flying every month because they know comair can adapt quickly to new markets. At this place you have to look at the bid packet every month to have any kind of idea where our flying is.
4. Even if Comair got 29 flights and skywest got one, that is a third of ATL and substantially less than LGA and DCA. I don't see any domiciles there either. I still think you will see all 1800 pilots at Comair based in cvg. All this means to comair pilots is a few different overnights.

 

[General Lee]

Someone on the Dalpa.net said that COMAIR got 6 of the new flights, connecting SLC to Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Phoenix, and Minneapolis. ASA got none.

Bye bye--General Lee

 

[DDpaysoff]

22-6 skywest wins. I believe the new flights = 28. They got a big share of DFW also. Don't be fooled, skywest has quietly grown as much or more than comair and asa.

 

[Russ]

DD
I looked over a company board and it looks like we (SkyWest) are losing a lot of flying in DFW along with the expansion in SLC.

I stand to be corrected.

 

[Anaconda]

only 13 posts before the general turned this into a comair bash-fest...you surprised me.

 

[General Lee]

Anaconda,

What can I say? The "CRM" comment really got to me.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[comrcap]

General is a Moron. Always taking a shot at the little guy. Duane Worthless will be at our MEC meeting on the 9th. I'm sure he'll be asked if he has the guts to sign a DALPA contract with any restrictions on Comair/ASA. Yes I'm for the RJDC and NO I am not going to share the pain that DALPA created for DAL. Just look at SLC! It's gonna be another DFW RJ FEST!

 

[~~~^~~~]

What "new" order is everyone writing about? There were 737-800's planned for delivery in 2002 that were pushed back to 2005. Delta does not have the cash to buy new airplanes, but they can try to re-write the 737-800 order to something smaller that better suits their needs. Despite the fact the E170/190 is a hot product at the moment Delta already has a deal with Boeing that will cost money to cancel.
My bet as to the reason for a lot of non wholly owned DCI growth is that Delta can acquire airplanes without the debt load showing up on the books. In my humble opinion it is a legitimate accounting trick because Delta does actually obligate the company for the non-owned airplanes because Delta has to buy them, or pay penalties, if the codeshare agreement is cancelled.
This was why I was SCREAMING on this board about the Delta MEC's actions on scope. Delta is now in the deals and can not cancel them short of bankruptcy. Those of you who dream of returning Delta flying to Delta pilots (like me) have watched our hope for attaining this goal dashed just within the last 36 months as the Delta MEC let the codeshare cat out of the bag, blocked the Comair and ASA MEC's from negotiating with Delta and continued the ALPA apartied plan of keeping us separate.
By the time the RJDC brings this to a stop, it may be too late. The damage might not be repairable.

By the way, sold my Airtran at $17.12 a share. I bought it at $2.40. Not that I have anything against Airtran at the moment. Just figured that was the lukiest I would ever be. Now if I can just get a job at an airline with a future.

 

[~~~^~~~]

NO I am not going to share the pain that DALPA created for DAL. Just look at SLC! It's gonna be another DFW RJ FEST!

Unfortunately the Delta MEC's actions have resulted in a lot of this flying going outside the Company for a long, long, time. Refer to the post above.

Thanks for supporting the RJDC. If the RJDC could only grow its support base amongst Delta pilots who realize what unionism is all about. There has to be a few of them left somewhere.