DAL/NWA Combination....should regional guys be worried?

[737 Pylt]

N, Delta can fly any aircraft on any route it wants. What has you all wound up is that the Delta pilots wont let you fly it for less.


The bottom line is that your high cost RJ is obsolete and being parked. Frankly the mainline can no longer afford to subsidize you.

Delta will use the right size aircraft for the market, the problem for you is that the right size aircraft is a mainline aircraft flow by mainline pilots and their scope clause won't let you sell your services for less on those aircraft.

And you wonder why the rjdc lost thier suit!? :laugh:

737

 

[N2264J]

Golly, you're saying the highest governing body in ALPA is the Executive Board? Really?

Where do you think I said that? The Board of Directors is the highest governing body but the PID never made that far as you claim. It was killed in committee by the Executive Council in August.

Your attempt to gloss over or dismiss the efforts to make it work are indicative of why it failed: Tunnel Vision.

There was never an attempt to make it work. By the time you arrived to the scene in October, the PID was dead. There was never a discussion about shared scarifice between the MECs. And to this day, E&FA denies there was ever a study done to calculate the cost to the pilots of merging the Delta/Comair/ASA lists.

Why do you think there was? Are you being told there was?

 

[Occam's Razor]

The Board of Directors is the highest governing body but the PID never made that far as you claim. It was killed in committee by the Executive Council in August.

That resolution...yes. The effort to bring it to the BOD...no. I know this because I was involved in it. You know that. For some reason, you're showing signs of some form of amnesia.

That's cool. At least two of us know you're just trying to be cute.

I still support your right to act like a victim.

There was never an attempt to make it work. By the time you arrived to the scene in October, the PID was dead. There was never a discussion about shared scarifice between the MECs.

"..arrived on the scene.."?

Good one! I'd been on the BOD since '95, and working closely with others seeking single-carrier status (eg: Wychor) from Day One.

You know that too.

And to this day, E&FA denies there was ever a study done to calculate the cost to the pilots of merging the Delta/Comair/ASA lists.

Why do you think there was? Are you being told there was?

1. I saw it.
2. My MEC (and one other) commissioned it.

The fact that E&FA wouldn't discuss proprietary work done for another MEC to a twerp who was actively suing the Association is confusing you?

Get help.

Seriously.

 

[Lear70]

That's cool. At least two of us know you're just trying to be cute.

I still support your right to act like a victim.

I don't care WHO you are... that's funny.

 

[N2264J]

That resolution...yes. The effort to bring it to the BOD...no. I know this because I was involved in it.

Again, there was no effort to bring it to the BOD. The PID was already dead by October. However, resolutions were brought to the BOD to put teeth back into ALPA's merger policy but they failed too.

The fact that E&FA wouldn't discuss proprietary work done for another MEC to a twerp who was actively suing the Association is confusing you?

What's proprietary about it? You were on this board last year telling us what was in this alleged study.

What's confusing me is why wasn't the Comair and ASA MECs shown that study if it existed in 2000? And why would E&FA deny it's existence to the Comair MEC recently?

 

[justthewife]

Back to the original question: Should regional guys be worried? Well, the fee-for-departure, let-the-legacy -carrier-pay-for-the-gas-and-assume-all-the-risk-so-we-can -make-a-huge-profit *cough* skywest* cough* guys should be worried. That's just my opinion.

There's a new way of doing business in the regional world with contracts written so the regional carrier takes on an equal share of the risk, and profits. I hear through the grapevine that the legacy carriers are really pleased with this type of arrangement.......too bad only one regional is doing it.