DAL/Expressjet NO More

[goahead]

http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/080703/145811.html

 

[Cpt Oveur]

hmmm, who has ERJs available to fly, and in Delta colors already??????

 

[outtahere]

Why does it need to be erj's?? Besides, come Sep. everyone will have spare A/C. I would really like to see ASA secure this flying, but I have this funny feeling that the ********************bags over in SLC will pick it up!

 

[propsarebest]

Its obvious who the SLC flying is going to be allocated to. The press release specifically only mentions SLC flying as being "reassigned". I wonder who will take over LAX flying?

 

[Superpilot92]

Its obvious who the SLC flying is going to be allocated to. The press release specifically only mentions SLC flying as being "reassigned". I wonder who will take over LAX flying?

NWA DC9s and or airbuses

 

[CFI2766]

Why does it need to be erj's?? Besides, come Sep. everyone will have spare A/C. I would really like to see ASA secure this flying, but I have this funny feeling that the ********************bags over in SLC will pick it up!

I doubt ASA would re-open a SLC base, which would seem to be the only way to make it work.

However, if SKYW took over that flying, maybe, just maybe, we would see less of their jets out here on this side of the Mississippi and more ASA aircraft on those routes.

 

[MJ42]

NWA DC9s and or airbuses

As it SHOULD BE and always HAVE BEEN!

 

[Cpt Oveur]

Someone is going to take the LAX flying. Delta has publicly said many times, most recently in the AJC as well as USA today, that it does not want to downsize LAX like it has decided to do with MCO. If anything, the DCI flying is merely holding the gate space until mainline can absorb it. It's a no brainer that Skywest is the front runner for that flying.

 

[CX880]

Good luck to Expressjet guys and gals, I know a few at LAX/ONT.

 

[jstyle13]

I doubt ASA would re-open a SLC base, which would seem to be the only way to make it work....

Yes let's all remember what Uncle Jerry said to the pilots here at ASA several years back about why he decided to shut down the ASA base in SLC: "We shut it down because it was cost-inneffective to have crew bases for both ASA and SkyWest running feed for Delta in the same domicile"

So using his logic there won't be a base for ASA in SLC, or for that matter a base for Skywest here in ATL.......wait a sec........

 

[saab fixr]

mmm Republic has spares ready to go. most have been painted white and with some of them coming off line to be replaced by 175s

 

[DoinTime]

Its sad to read these pathetic remarks about who is going to pick up this flying. What a bunch of vultures you are. It should be a sad day for us all to see the best paid pilots in our segment of the industry taking a blow like this. Its no wonder we all work for the pitiful scraps left behind in the wake of industry turmoil.

 

[Medeco]

Whoever agrees to pickp the fuel cost will get it.

If nobody agrees then they will put the lowest bid with the highest performance.

I'd put money on Skywest. Unless they want first class cabin, then republic.

Strong arming from Delta will be part of the RFP.

Medeco

 

[JoeMerchant]

Its sad to read these pathetic remarks about who is going to pick up this flying. What a bunch of vultures you are. It should be a sad day for us all to see the best paid pilots in our segment of the industry taking a blow like this. Its no wonder we all work for the pitiful scraps left behind in the wake of industry turmoil.

....as when CMR, ALG, PDT, Air Wisconsin and ACA all lost flying...This has been going on for some time and will continue to as long as ALPA ignores brand scope.....The current environment is every man for themselves....It hasn't paid to be "the best paid" for quite some time.....

It's very simple....Either we bargain as ONE unit at each brand or we bargain SEPARATELY within each brand and do what is best for number 1.....and that ain't the other guy....Which will it be?

 

[flyf15]

Another airline might get this flying, but its not going to mean Delta will be taking on any more 50 seaters... any flying you get here is going to be at the expense of loosing other flying. Its merely going to be a shift of airplanes from one set of routes to another.

So, don't get too excited.

 

[GINCHBLASTER]

Another airline might get this flying, but its not going to mean Delta will be taking on any more 50 seaters... any flying you get here is going to be at the expense of loosing other flying. Its merely going to be a shift of airplanes from one set of routes to another.

So, don't get too excited.

Damn that loose flying!

In all seriousness though sorry to hear for the ExpressJet guys.

 

[johnsonrod]

Watch Colgan transfer Saabs from LGA to LAX. You heard it here first...

 

[TOOL CRIB]

From a Delta press release:

"With the losses we were experiencing from our Delta pro-rate flying combined with our ability to return aircraft to the lessor, this termination of service is in the best interest of our company," said Jim Ream, ExpressJet President and Chief Executive Officer.
After Sept. 1, ExpressJet will retain the 23 ERJ-145 aircraft it currently flies Delta Connection.

 

[CFI2766]

....as when CMR, ALG, PDT, Air Wisconsin and ACA all lost flying...This has been going on for some time and will continue to as long as ALPA ignores brand scope.....The current environment is every man for themselves....It hasn't paid to be "the best paid" for quite some time.....

It's very simple....Either we bargain as ONE unit at each brand or we bargain SEPARATELY within each brand and do what is best for number 1.....and that ain't the other guy....Which will it be?

Well, past and current events point towards each brand doing what is best for #1....which ain't the other guy. For the average American, is that right? Is that wrong? Depends on your beliefs.

For the pilot group, it's clearly a negative to have to fight other pilots for the award to do the cheapest flying. Unfortunatetly, I think the train has already left on brand scope. Not to absolve them from blame, but there is nothing that ALPA or any other union could do at this time to instill or force a unity amongst pilot groups. Without the ability to conduct an organized strike, there is no serious financial motivation for management to actually negotiate with pilot groups. Sure, we can 'work to rule' and 'fly safe', and these things have helped with ASA's negotiations, but not to the effect of an organized, specific work stoppage.

So, the average pilot asks him/herself, what good is ALPA (fill in the name of union here: Teamsters/SWAPA/girl scouts/etc...)? Sure, there are several things that ALPA does well. However, the main thing that pilots want and need a collective bargaining umbrella to do, i.e. increase wages and quality of life, ALPA can not do.

 

[CFI2766]

It should be acknowledged that it stinks that well-compensated pilots (XJT) will be harmed by this. I don't like the idea of another pilot out of work, and I certainly wouldn't (won't?) delight in doing work that was once done by someone else.

It's a harsh reality.