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[ACL65PILOT]

Doesn't matter who you are, mgt knows you are a pilot - they don't care which pilot they are picking the brain of, we are all the same to them. Just don't do it; unless you need to stop by to tell him that you knocked his daughter up and you will be moving into his basement/2nd home with her.

What makes you think that Oneworld will not provide a good revenue stream to JAL, and a more relevant one at that (they already know the benefit)? You could argue that if Oneworld was working out for JAL, then they would not be in need of bailing out..... but not if if you are Delta. You know, the airline that just came out of bankruptcy and bought another airline that also had recently emerged out of bankruptcy! I guess you could say that Delta knows how to get out of contracts, and that would help JAL; but so does AA, BA, CX, and TPG!

Look, I want the best for Delta. JAL would be great for Skyteam and Delta (the company). More of that synergy stuff would happen. I am not convinced that there is any benefit to pilots; which is my sole concern.

Trust me management does not give two hoots what is inside my brain. Quite giving me that much credit.

As for JAL, Lee is correct. Skyteam offers better options, and AMR with TPG offers more money but there are strings attached, and if you know Japanese businessmen, that is not a way to do business.

 

[twobits]

I don't know Japanese business men, do you? There are going to be strings attached either way.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

I don't know Japanese business men, do you? There are going to be strings attached either way.

I do. My wife works for one of Japan's biggest industrial companies. There are always strings.

 

[twobits]

so strings..... Don't you think there are more strings attached to the Delta deal? Aligning with Delta involves changing alliances, miles programs, marketing, revenue management, etc..... I know you want this thing ACL, but it may not work out the way you think. I wouldn't get too excited about your A seat anytime soon, unless you go to VA and are willing to trade 'fun' for money. More power to you though, I would be pleasantly surprised if Delta beats out Oneworld/TPG - still not convinced it's good for the young'uns at Delta if it does work out.

 

[Diesel-9]

DL flies to all of Asia, Hawaii, LAX, SFO, PDX, SEA, MSP, DTW, JFK, ATL, etc....., and KLM and AF fly to CDG and AMS. It just is a better combo, and Tokyo agrees. We'll see...

If I remember correctly, NWA has rights to Tokyo and beyond from 11 U.S. cities. Only using 6 or 7 of them now. LAX,SFO,PDX,SEA,MSP,DTW,NYC. One of the dormant cities is DFW. Large potential for Asia growth out of the U.S. Especially with the flexibility of 787 service.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

so strings..... Don't you think there are more strings attached to the Delta deal? Aligning with Delta involves changing alliances, miles programs, marketing, revenue management, etc..... I know you want this thing ACL, but it may not work out the way you think. I wouldn't get too excited about your A seat anytime soon, unless you go to VA and are willing to trade 'fun' for money. More power to you though, I would be pleasantly surprised if Delta beats out Oneworld/TPG - still not convinced it's good for the young'uns at Delta if it does work out.

really?

I had an A seat for eight years. Not looking anxious to get there any sooner than my seniority allows. Personally, I love sitting reserve watching my family grow up.

Honestly, it may end up as you fear, but it will end up worse if we do not do something in the Far East. A lot of feed that supports our current flying will be gone. A lot more than would be gone if we had to give all of NRT up.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

If I remember correctly, NWA has rights to Tokyo and beyond from 11 U.S. cities. Only using 6 or 7 of them now. LAX,SFO,PDX,SEA,MSP,DTW,NYC. One of the dormant cities is DFW. Large potential for Asia growth out of the U.S. Especially with the flexibility of 787 service.

You are correct sir, and DFW has lots of options. KLM flies to AMS from there and AF is probably going to start CDG service again.

 

[NuGuy]

If I remember correctly, NWA has rights to Tokyo and beyond from 11 U.S. cities. Only using 6 or 7 of them now. LAX,SFO,PDX,SEA,MSP,DTW,NYC. One of the dormant cities is DFW. Large potential for Asia growth out of the U.S. Especially with the flexibility of 787 service.

Heyas,

IF the JAL think happens, AMR will be pissed.

IF we start flying NRT from DFW, AMR will be pissed

IF we start flying NRT from DFW AND plunking down 10-12 city pairs to/from DFW and make it a "focus city" to feed it, AMR will be REALLY pissed.

IF this happens, AMR will be shut out of Asia, and they will be REALLY, REALLY pissed.

They'll come back hard and woe betide anyone who is part of their vengence (* cough * ALK *cough*). They are still a dangerous competitor, and could turn the screws not only on the West Coast, but south of the border, as well.

Nu

 

[another cfii]

They'll come back hard and woe betide anyone who is part of their vengence (* cough * ALK *cough*). They are still a dangerous competitor, and could turn the screws not only on the West Coast, but south of the border, as well.

Nu

I'm sure this year, Latin/S. Amer. is high up on our wish list. It's one of the money maker for our company right now, and if we can connect the dots from NRT to GRU, let's say, it's gonna be very lucrative.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Or, we have the agreements with JAL done, AS done and go buy Spirit up to compete on a low cost structure with AMR in LA.

Not saying this is what is going on, I am just sayin........

 

[GogglesPisano]

Or, we have the agreements with JAL done, AS done and go buy Spirit up to compete on a low cost structure with AMR in LA.

Not saying this is what is going on, I am just sayin........

How does "buying Spirit up to compete on a low cost structure with AMR in LA," happen? Unless we keep them as a subsidiary, which our PWA prohibits, their labor costs immediately come up to ours. We get airbuses, that's all.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

How does "buying Spirit up to compete on a low cost structure with AMR in LA," happen? Unless we keep them as a subsidiary, which our PWA prohibits, their labor costs immediately come up to ours. We get airbuses, that's all.

Just feeding the troll.

Point is that we could immediately go after AMR with a purchase like Spirit. That is all, nothing else.

 

[FUZZO]

Just feeding the troll.

Point is that we could immediately go after AMR with a purchase like Spirit. That is all, nothing else.

Guys ACL is rounding 3rd, heading for home.....You are connecting dots together well. Not saying you are right, but YOU HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Guys ACL is rounding 3rd, heading for home.....You are connecting dots together well. Not saying you are right, but YOU HAVE THE RIGHT IDEA

Brother the dots are connected, but in the simplest of terms, I am keeping the deets to myself.

 

[FUZZO]

Japan Airlines Meets Its Savior

Hana R. Alberts, 01.14.10, 04:30 AM EST He may be one of the wealthiest people in Japan, but can Kyocera founder Kazuo Inamori turn around a bankrupt carrier?

HONG KONG -- It's a good thing Kyocera founder Kazuo Inamori is also an ordained Buddhist monk, because he'll need all the assistance he can get--divine or otherwise--to tackle his latest challenge.
Japan's most famous entrepreneur, currently a 78-year-old retiree, is tasked with overhauling Japan Airlines' money-hemorrhaging operation.

The government used to run Asia's largest carrier, and critics say vestiges of plodding, stuffy leadership remain to this day. With JAL's bankruptcy looming, Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama asked on Wednesday if Inamori would assume the post of CEO.

He agreed, and now says he'll take on the job without pay. True, he doesn't need the money. Boasting a net worth of $920 million, Inamori is Japan's 28th-richest man, according to Forbes Asia's just-released ranking of the island nation's wealthiest people.
In 1959, at just 27, he founded Kyocera after raising 3 million yen ($32,700) from acquaintances. The company makes ceramic electronic components, solar panels and cellphones. Ceramics may not sound profitable, but miniature pieces of baked mud live in the mechanical guts of computers, cameras, televisions, microprocessors, mobile phones and just about every electronic device.


Kyocera Corporation's ( KYO - news - people ) net sales totaled 1.1 trillion yen ($12 billion) in 2009 and it employs nearly 60,000 people. In the late 90s, the company hit a roadblock: a company it supplied handsets to went bust, Intel ( INTC - news - people ) had shifted from Kyocera ceramics to cheaper resins to package its microprocessors and it didn't help that the majority of its customers were Japanese. Inamori brought in new blood to turn things around.








Kyocera started to win back orders by producing heat-resistant plastic packages and plastic-ceramic hybrids. The boom in the cellphone business further hoisted the company from a slump.
In 1984, after regulations loosened up in Japan's telecommunications sector, he founded DDI Corporation, which is now known as KDDI and is the second-largest mobile phone operator in Japan.
Inamori holds a bachelors degree in applied chemistry, and he was an early advocate of harnessing energy from the sun. In 1975 he established a joint venture to develop solar cells with corporate giants including Panasonic, Sharp ( SHCAY - news - people ) and Tyco International ( TYC - news - people ).
A marriage of his spiritual and entrepreneurial interests, Inamori's business philosophy seems almost trite. On his official Web site, he describes how he handles obstacles: "I have struggled with many dead-end situations which caused me endless agony. In those difficult circumstances, I would always go back to the fundamentals and ask myself, 'What is the right thing to do as a human being?' Everything I do in my work is based upon this fundamental principle. Observing this rule, day in and day out, has brought me amazing results."


Inamori, who stepped down as Kyocera's chairman in 2005, has kept busy with philanthropic and educational pursuits. He heads up his own foundation, which administers the Kyoto Prize, a Nobel Prize-like award in which a 20-karat gold medal and a $540,000 prize is granted each year to three individuals for achievements in technology, science, art or philosophy. Forbes Asia has dubbed him a "hero of philanthropy."
JAL sure needs a hero. The company posted losses three out of the last four years, and the government has had to step in and bail out the carrier three times since 2001. Shares fell by their maximum margin two days this week, plummeting 81% on Wednesday alone. On the horizon: the carrier will slash pension payouts, shed over 15,000 employees and cut dozens of unprofitable routes.
Meanwhile, suitors AMR's ( AMR - news - people ) American Airlines and Delta Air Lines ( DAL - news - people ) are eager to grab a piece of the recovering Asian travel market and have temporarily put off efforts to collaborate with JAL until the bankruptcy process makes headway.
When asked during a 2002 interview with the New Sun to describe his future goals, Inamori answered, "As long as I live, I would like to continue to contribute to the material and spiritual happiness of humanity and society."
Just as long as JAL is a beneficiary.




Not happening this week anyways......

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Not until they enter and can have new agreements approved by the BK court.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Projected Training is out as promised.

 

[GOULET!]

Delta buys 9 MD-90s from China Eastern
January 15, 2010




Delta is adding nine MD-90 aircraft purchased from China Eastern Airlines to its fleet, an acquisition that will make Delta the world’s second-largest operator of the aircraft.
Delta will receive the aircraft between February and July. Two additional MD-90s will be delivered from Boeing Capital, a division of the aircraft manufacturer, which will bring the total to 11 of the aircraft added to the fleet this year.
“Those MD-90s are quite flexible because they fit in our network,” said Hank Halter, Delta’s chief financial officer, at a recent event for Delta investors. “We’re not looking to grow capacity, but when there’s very inexpensive opportunities for lift, such as the MD-90, we’ll certainly consider it.”
The airplanes are the most efficient narrowbody aircraft in Delta’s fleet, Hank said, and provide a cost-effective tool for managing Delta’s capacity. The purchase will not add to Delta’s capacity, but will partially offset the reduction of DC-9s and regional jets in the fleet.
The current seating configuration for the aircraft is 150, with 12 in first class and 138 in coach. All of the jets will be upgraded with brand-new interiors before entering service. Once the aircraft are received, Delta will have 28 MD-90s, the second-largest fleet in the world after Saudi Arabian Airlines, which has 29.


I know it says it does not at capacity but are we to assume this doesn't mean anything as far as potential hiring either? I would have guessed the 737 to be the most efficient narrowbody in the fleet.

 

[Full of LUV]

One more, HNL

If I remember correctly, NWA has rights to Tokyo and beyond from 11 U.S. cities. Only using 6 or 7 of them now. LAX,SFO,PDX,SEA,MSP,DTW,NYC. One of the dormant cities is DFW. Large potential for Asia growth out of the U.S. Especially with the flexibility of 787 service.

I know of one more at least, HNL, twice a day currently.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

You may see some HNL to the Far East routes pop up.