CVG-A real ghost town.

[nonstop]

Actually no. DAL likes DTW a lot more now that they have digested NWA's traffic data. It will be built up.

:beer:

Lions won a game! Good times here we come!

 

[NuGuy]

Heyas,

DCI is going to be down to less than 200 AC in two years. Heard it here first.

Nu

 

[Dornier 335]

speaking of ghost town PIT, does the E concourse still exist?

 

[BRA]

speaking of ghost town PIT, does the E concourse still exist?

I was there a few months back. It looks like it just sits there as it has the last 5 years or so. Many of the stores and stuff are still in the main area though. Nice looking airport.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

The economy is no excuse-oil was trading at $125 per barrel when this was filmed. Now it is half that price.

RA very specifically stated at 4:45 that "this transaction allows us to keep all of the hubs of both airlines."

CVG still exists as a "hub." It is only about 1/10th (or less) the size it was at the time of this tesimony, but it still exists. The fact that RA and Steenland so adeptly skirted around their intent and danced on the head of a pin throughout these hearings should really give you pause about the quality of leadership you now have.

If you think the crap from this video was above-board and not misleading in any way, you should have a wonderful time when your contract negotiations start up aginst these snakes. They are going to be your very bestest pals!

-Enjoy-

Oil has something to do with it, but so does declining yields. Ya know the fact that we were down almost 30% yoy.
It is recovering to a projection of a 10% decline yoy, but still down.

They may keep CVG as a pilot base or a hub, maybe both, but as we move farther in to this merger we will some realignment. I still see three international cities next summer out of CVG. The O and D is robust with our corporate contracts, but not to the pilot where we will just keep flight for the heck of it.
CVG's biggest problem is it serves only a few cities that ATL or DTW does not. In effect it is redundant and makes us compete with ourselves out of class two cities.
ya'll want bigger jets in to smaller cities, some of the redundancy will have to go.

CVG is an awesome airport and works really well. If for anything we need to keep it to protect our turf. The one thing that may keep it is the lessons learned in DFW.

 

[Tejas-Jet]

DFW was offering SWA free rent for 5 years and like $25 million worth of advertising if they would move their non-hub, hub from LUV to DFW.

Uhhhh...there was more to it than that. Actually, the DFW Board didn't set their sights on SWA until they started that Wright ( Wrong) Amendment stuff.

But their offer was 1 million per gate to any airline that would come and use the, former, Delta gates. Plus there was the reduced gate costs that were offered...funny...not one airline jumped at that "opportunity" .

Wanna know why?

Because the caveat was that the airline had to sign up to use a minimum of 10 gates and they had to fly to the markets that the DFW Board told them to fly to. Additionally, the DFW Board expected a certain number of flights per day from those gates.

Socialism, I tell ya....

But the ad campaign was funny...

"SWA and DFW...Together We're Stronger"

 

[Full of LUV]

Sure there was....

Uhhhh...there was more to it than that. Actually, the DFW Board didn't set their sights on SWA until they started that Wright ( Wrong) Amendment stuff.

But their offer was 1 million per gate to any airline that would come and use the, former, Delta gates. Plus there was the reduced gate costs that were offered...funny...not one airline jumped at that "opportunity" .

Wanna know why?

Because the caveat was that the airline had to sign up to use a minimum of 10 gates and they had to fly to the markets that the DFW Board told them to fly to. Additionally, the DFW Board expected a certain number of flights per day from those gates.

Socialism, I tell ya....

But the ad campaign was funny...

"SWA and DFW...Together We're Stronger"

I'm sure there was some strings that made it a non-starter or SWA would have jumped. Bottom line, why does one airline deserve a better deal than the rest? If I were AA, I would be livid, hey, they make a Looong term committment to the DFW only to have their hub rented out to the low rent club. Kind of like buying an expensive house in a gated community and then finding out the builder is designating half the lots as a trailer park. The rent should be what it is and if I were DAL I would sign a "sweetheart" deal to make sure I wasn't undercut at every location possible. Otherwise the next time Skybus gets an inkling to startup again, it will be right in CVG vice CMH.