Current and correct Flight Options rates?

[jetwash]

We get the per diem and we buy whatever we want on the company card for Breakfast, lunch or dinner. There is no set limit and no questions asked.
Plus you expense the tip.

If you want steak and lobster every night for dinner go for it. I know guys that go to subway for a $5 sandwich and other who spend $70 per night on lobster.
I have heard of $300 sushi dinners charged.

One of the rules is no snacks, so I can't buy a bag of chips but I can instead buy caviar with dinner.
My max was $75 on a very good steak dinner.

Just no booze on the card.

 

[CL300Pilot]

That is a pretty good deal. I know it don't make up for a lot of other things, but pretty good anyway. Thank you for answering the question.

 

[jetwash]

That is a pretty good deal. I know it don't make up for a lot of other things, but pretty good anyway. Thank you for answering the question.

That was right from Kenn Ricci who put that policy in place. He explains why in his book.
In short he would rather have a pissed off pilot who had a long hard day charge $100 for a dinner rather then ground an aircraft for a BS reason to get back at the company.

 

[Frac Cap]

It is a nice system. If you are flying through dinner, you need to request a crew dinner if you won't have time to get one. Breakfast and lunch are ordered by default.

I trust you will be shown a lot of love in the beginning with small goodwill changes like domiciles, meal policies, and small things like that. That's what happened to us back in 08. But when things didn't go the way they were hoping, they took our 401k away from us.

 

[doh]

Did they take away the 401k or the match? I've heard other guys say "took away the 401k" too.

 

[Frac Cap]

They still have a 401k but took away the 6% match. The LAS mechanics got it right back when they changed over to constance aviation.

 

[shanes123]

What they took away in the match is double what we would spend average on meals..so once again Ken wins..Ken always wins. He will tell you he's giving you something but then he takes away two things. So in reality you end up with less..He a master at it and there are plenty of idiots that work at flops that he's been fooling for years with that trick..They think there getting something. Not losing..

 

[FR8DOG777]

organizing

for all you flex pilots my heart goes out to you for the recent transaction that took place. this is the honest truth from a travel air pilot that has seen the demise of a proud and noble profession to being reduced to fighting against an immoral and profit driven greed machine. after 14 years of accident and incident free service i go to work on a weekly basis and have to go to battle with uneducated schedulers and fight for adequate rest periods. this has taken a toll on my physical health as well as my emotional well being. I now go to work with the intention of returning home safely to my family with no certificate actions imposed upon me due to being overworked. it is unfortunate to find yourselves in the situation you are currently facing. i can tell you in 14 years of service that ricci has contributed 16k in company matching funds towarhds my 401k. that equates to a little over 100 bucks a month for safely flying the top1
percent wealthiest people around. do not be fooled being sold to kenn is like being forced to dance with the devil. do us all a favor and organize now. there is nothing classy about the teamsters period as another poster insinuated. I can ensure you kenn ricci has less class than them. that is the sad state of affairs you find yourselves in. btw the dust hasn't settled yet on Ricci's little shell game and the grand screwing of flops pilots yet!

 

[jonjuan]

for all you flex pilots my heart goes out to you for the recent transaction that took place. this is the honest truth from a travel air pilot that has seen the demise of a proud and noble profession to being reduced to fighting against an immoral and profit driven greed machine. after 14 years of accident and incident free service i go to work on a weekly basis and have to go to battle with uneducated schedulers and fight for adequate rest periods. this has taken a toll on my physical health as well as my emotional well being. I now go to work with the intention of returning home safely to my family with no certificate actions imposed upon me due to being overworked. it is unfortunate to find yourselves in the situation you are currently facing. i can tell you in 14 years of service that ricci has contributed 16k in company matching funds towarhds my 401k. that equates to a little over 100 bucks a month for safely flying the top1
percent wealthiest people around. do not be fooled being sold to kenn is like being forced to dance with the devil. do us all a favor and organize now. there is nothing classy about the teamsters period as another poster insinuated. I can ensure you kenn ricci has less class than them. that is the sad state of affairs you find yourselves in. btw the dust hasn't settled yet on Ricci's little shell game and the grand screwing of flops pilots yet!

Good lord...why do you continue to do it? At UAL, delta, SWA, you make 100K year 2 and the company match is $15,000. Sounds like the only way to get what you deserve is to split. 10 years from now and your company match will be 5%. The wealthy only get that way if you let them abuse you.

 

[FR8DOG777]

Wow all this from a momma's boy who happenened to be at the right place and the right time? I was trying to have a frank conversation with the flex pilots and what there future looks like under Ricci control. My guess after reading your last three posts is that you wouldn't survive a minute without your mammas breast out of your mouth. Glad you landed the big one with netjets. The rest of us are fighting just to stay afloat. My guess is you would still be flight instructing if you weren't where u are now. I guess you slipped through that holy laden condom just like your moniker on hiring day at netjets? Prove me wrong!

 

[OHGOON]

You have to thank the Teamsters for that stellar pay scale.

Why is a CitationAir mid level manager posting on a Flops payscale thread? What credibility does he have to comment, never mind the real motivation?

 

[notapilot]

for all you flex pilots my heart goes out to you for the recent transaction that took place. this is the honest truth from a travel air pilot do us all a favor and organize now.

Most are waiting to see how things play out. We have remained union free because overall we decided we don't need a union. If things take a turn for the worse don't be surprised when the majority have a change of heart. If we continue to be treated fairly by the new ownership it clearly benefits everyone. We are all going into this with an open mind and giving management the opportunity to do the right thing. Time will tell and by not being currently organized we have plenty of options if needed.

 

[FR8DOG777]

Dude, you are living in a dream world. There is someone vehemently chopping down your ivory tower. His name is Kenneth Ricci, wake up and smell the coffee. I'll buy you a double shot of expresso if needed. For gods sake wake up. He is illegally buying up capacity and trying to corner the market after screwing over the hard working pilots at flops. The man is a convicted felon and wife cheater. For the love of all that's holy wake up and try to save the last shred of decency in the fractional profession!

 

[gret]

Dude, you are living in a dream world. There is someone vehemently chopping down your ivory tower. His name is Kenneth Ricci, wake up and smell the coffee. I'll buy you a double shot of expresso if needed. For gods sake wake up. He is illegally buying up capacity and trying to corner the market after screwing over the hard working pilots at flops. The man is a convicted felon and wife cheater. For the love of all that's holy wake up and try to save the last shred of decency in the fractional profession!

What do you want him to do about the situation this week?

 

[FR8DOG777]

Take somebodys word for it that has been in hios exact shoes 12 years ago and send in the fuccccing card. As much as I hate the teamsters if the three of us don't unite and soon expect the frac duty days to continue to be 14 hours and pay to be in the 90k range. Don't know what else to say you guys got fuccced. I been rolled by Ricci three times too many. The teamsters suck badly, I can tell you six months under ricci you will be begging for mercy!

 

[johnsonrod]

Everyone is hinting at the CitationAir acquisition by Ricci's group but it hasn't been announced. People sure this rumor has legs so soon after the Flexjet acquisition?

 

[japhy]

.....The man is a convicted felon and wife cheater.

source???