CRJs limited to 250 KIAS?

[Sgt. Hartman]

In the past couple of weeks I have heard more than one CRJ tell ATC that they are limited to 250 knots for the entire flight. Why is this? I hope that the gear wasn't stuck down.

 

[StaySeated]

Just trying to recoup the 3 year pay/longevity freeze. We would go slower if we could.

 

[uncle]

Very keen observation, StaySeated

 

[sleddriver77]

Reduce to Payroll Power!!!

 

[jackbo]

it's because pinnacle pilots kept exceeding the 250 knot limit below 10,000. it was getting to be such an epidemic that they decided to limit all their crjs to 250 knots all the time.

if you aren't smarter than the rules, than the rules will have to be changed.

 

[uncle]

The opposite of renter's rpm.

 

[Bongo]

I'm sorry, I couldn't find smooth air anywhere! Back to turbulence penetration speed we go. Wouldn't want to bend the airframe in case we hit some extreme turbulence in this severe clear weather.

 

[Rook]

it's because pinnacle pilots kept exceeding the 250 knot limit below 10,000. it was getting to be such an epidemic that they decided to limit all their crjs to 250 knots all the time.

if you aren't smarter than the rules, than the rules will have to be changed.

As Eddie Murphy said in 48hrs... Ha Ha.......Ha.

Tool

 

[DGdaPilot]

I'm sorry, I couldn't find smooth air anywhere! Back to turbulence penetration speed we go. Wouldn't want to bend the airframe in case we hit some extreme turbulence in this severe clear weather.

Uhhh...isn't that speed 280 KIAS?

 

[ss9e]

it's because pinnacle pilots kept exceeding the 250 knot limit below 10,000. it was getting to be such an epidemic that they decided to limit all their crjs to 250 knots all the time.

if you aren't smarter than the rules, than the rules will have to be changed.

ha ha ha. the real reason is that we have had quite a few a/c that have a CDL limiting them to 250 kias. this CDL item has to be repaired in 7 days.

 

[Tim47SIP]

I can't remember!

Just exactly was that CDL. I have been out of the lime light for a little over a year and can't remember a 250 KIAS CDL. I am just curious, not implying you are wrong. Thanks in advance.

 

[No Delay]

I had something similar to this last week. A deferrel of part of the BTMS required the gear to remain down for 10 minutes which limited us to 250 kts.

 

[Lear70]

Anything that has anything to do with the gear system. Landing gear doors, door brushes, as well as anything that would keep the gear fixed down.

I've flown several of these types of deferrals over the last few months. Things have a tendency of not getting fixed around here lately, mostly due to lack of parts.

The aircraft will often have the part in question replaced from a perfectly good working aircraft, then THAT aircraft will be DMI'd for 7 days. Seen it a couple times now, it buys the company time...

p.s. That's pretty funny Rook... brought back memories - haven't seen that movie in a while.

 

[ss9e]

Just exactly was that CDL. I have been out of the lime light for a little over a year and can't remember a 250 KIAS CDL. I am just curious, not implying you are wrong. Thanks in advance.

missing gear doors. i think that it's CDL 32-12. this CDL takes a weight hit depending on which flaps setting you use. it also takes a 0.7% burn penalty.

 

[E170Guppykiller]

I heard that the restriction in speed is due to an AD put out by the Feds restricting speed to 230kts because the low time pilots flying them are having a hard time keeping ahead of the plane. The AD does NOT apply to pilots that have attended Riddle's high speed aerodynamics course. As they have shown on paper that they can handle the speed of the CRJ.

 

[Kream926]

^^^^ please tell me you didnt take a picture of yourself and use it as an avitar.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

^^^^ please tell me you didnt take a picture of yourself and use it as an avitar.

He got a purdy mouth...

 

[CaptainMack]

I heard that the restriction in speed is due to an AD put out by the Feds restricting speed to 230kts because the low time pilots flying them are having a hard time keeping ahead of the plane. The AD does NOT apply to pilots that have attended Riddle's high speed aerodynamics course. As they have shown on paper that they can handle the speed of the CRJ.

Wow, this guy is really letting the flamebait out all over the place. Too bad for that dorky kid in his avatar, he'll get his @$$ kicked if he shows up anywhere the regionals fly; better take the train. What was this thread about? And btw, the name CaptainObvious was already taken.

 

[Tahoe1]

Guppy killer eh, dude your one load your m_m's should have swallowed.

 

[DAS at 10/250]

HaHa! I thought GuppyKiller's post was pretty damn funny. And more than likely contains more truth than fiction! I'm a CAPT grad! Yehaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Give me an RJ!


P.S. Guppy, lose the avatar if that is you.

 

[E170Guppykiller]

^^^^ please tell me you didnt take a picture of yourself and use it as an avitar.

At least I have the balls to post one. Do you?

 

[Kream926]

At least I have the balls to post one. Do you?

balls? yes. a pair. brass ones. you've probably seen me out. im the one walking with the wheelbarrow<sp> to carry them in

 

[DoinTime]

I heard that the restriction in speed is due to an AD put out by the Feds restricting speed to 230kts because the low time pilots flying them are having a hard time keeping ahead of the plane. The AD does NOT apply to pilots that have attended Riddle's high speed aerodynamics course. As they have shown on paper that they can handle the speed of the CRJ.

So does that mean you have to fly your E170 at 230 kts too?

 

[panamclipper]

Good idea!
Keep flying slow and underperforming.
Hopefully, we will have your contract soon.
Thanks for the help.

Just trying to recoup the 3 year pay/longevity freeze. We would go slower if we could.

 

[Lear70]

Good idea!
Keep flying slow and underperforming.
Hopefully, we will have your contract soon.
Thanks for the help.

Keep smoking that crack Clipperboy...

We could fly these planes around at 250 kts all day long and STILL probably make 98% on-time arrival. NORTHWEST has set the timetables on all these flights, and they're set rediculously high on our trip sheets. I normally bid a low 90 hour line and REGULARLY underblock that when I'm flying profile.

Last week's 6 day trip during interface and I underblocked 16 legs by 1 hour and 48 minutes, and that was doing profile. We're always so d*mn early that Mesaba never has our gate available - why do you think we're always sitting out on the deice pad somewhere in DTW? At least MEM and MSP makes sure the gate will be open for at least 20 min before our scheduled arrival.

 

[Crizz]

I watched a flagship climb out of MSP the other day with its gear extended. They left it down as far as I could watch them. I figured it was because the GIA right seater forgot to say, "dude... positive rate"

 

[DAS at 10/250]

"dude... positive rate"

Man, that's some funny stuff. Reminds me of that movie about "Good Burger" and "Mondo Burger", I can't remember the name.....

...........somebody?

 

[Kream926]

good burger, home of the good burger


speaking of burgers, weber's in tulsa has the best, and good root beer

 

[say again]

I heard that the restriction in speed is due to an AD put out by the Feds restricting speed to 230kts because the low time pilots flying them are having a hard time keeping ahead of the plane. The AD does NOT apply to pilots that have attended Riddle's high speed aerodynamics course. As they have shown on paper that they can handle the speed of the CRJ.

D!ckweed, that is one lame reply!!!! On paper huh??? I've shown on paper that I could fly the space shuttle, but I haven't gotten a class date yet. You're a friggin' tool bag. Go back to the little boys group you came from!!!!!

 

[DAS at 10/250]

I've alway been a fan of Coit's in OKC. Never been to Weber's. I'll have to try it next time I'm up in RVS. Got an address?

PS Kream, I used to be a huge Bills fan until I lost my arse betting on three Superbowls. Never again. Sorry Norwood....