CRJ or ERJ - which one do you prefer?

[Jetlink]

Jetlink, I'm curious about not having an airstair door. I'm not totally sure but I thought that the airstair door was part of a certification requirement for evacuations on the airplane. Otherwise a slide of some kind is needed. Is that what the ERJs have that don't have airstair doors? I understand that the reason why the CRJ-700 looks like it sits high up on it's rear wheels and low on the nose is for this requirement. It has an airstair door which Canadair wanted to keep. If the door entry way was just a little bit higher up then certification requirements would require the installation of a slide, something that Canadair considered more expensive. Just curious what the ERJ has.

Those aircraft numbers above are very interesting and informative. Thanks for posting them.

You gotta hand it to those RJ builders....they can build around scope and FARs

The ERJ is 1" away from having to be required to have an evac slide. Soooo...you get to jump off. I forget how high it actually is, around 5'2" or 5'6" or something around that to the ground I believe.

As far as my stretch challenger comment...that was tounge-n-cheek as far as it not being much different...and simply stretched....i.e. its initial problems with the wing spars. Sarcasm is hard on this

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Talk about a tight margin with the Regs! 1", now what if they change that - woulf that force EMB to add the slide?

 

[Jetlink]

Talk about a tight margin with the Regs! 1", now what if they change that - woulf that force EMB to add the slide?

Yep...1" or 1 seat....there are limits to everything...scope and regs.

umm...what change the Reg's?? That isn't going to happen.

Reg's such as that don't change. If by some fart in Congress they would, its called grandfathering.

 

[LearLove]

o the memmories.......

"I am just amazed there are not more people falling or slipping down those airstairs on the CRJs I have been on...the things are steep and narrow. Certainly not easy to carry a bag up the stairs and you along with it."

Back in better times (summer of 99) I was in ISP sitting in the rt seat of the Dash with comair parked just to our right. they had just pulled in and were deplaning with the airstair door like all other CRJ's. As I was watching this pretty hot blone come off the steps behind her is this typical Long Island guido guy who takes a full digger from the top step. He did a full summersalt and landed on the ramp, as his feet rolled out they hit the blonde chick in front of him and she stumbled foward pretty good, dropping her purse and roller bag and bumped the guy in front of her. by this time the fallen guy was laid out on the ramp laying on his side, without missing a beat the blone chick, picked up her bags and in typical Long Island attitude, turned around and kicked the guy square in the stomach. At the same time you could read her lips as she said something like "*ucking Jerk" and walks into the terminal.

Later when we got back into ISP I asked the Delta agent what happened to the guy. She told me that he was drunk out of his mind and had hit in the blonde chic the whole flight from cvg.

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as for the thread ? , I'd prefer the Dash 8. It does the same job cheaper and more efficent and in some cases faster. Too bad it now suffers from the ignorance of the traveling public.

 

[Russ]

I later married that blond, she left me for a mainline pilot however.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Wow, thats got to hurt!

Russ, you just pulling everybody's leg, or serious?

 

[SkyWestCRJPilot]

I am just amazed there are not more people falling or slipping down those airstairs on the CRJs I have been on...the things are steep and narrow. Certainly not easy to carry a bag up the stairs and you along with it.

I have to admit I've slid down those stairs a time or two. It really looks great when your the one in uniform expected to fly the airplane. It should be a part of IOE: learning how to go up and down stairs without falling.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Skywest,

I have not flown in the CRJ's yet, but will in about a month with QX. Are the -700's the same story?

 

[Gregory24]

who is QX?

 

[flx757]

who is QX?

Horizon

 

[SkyWestCRJPilot]

I can't say much about the -700. SkyWest doesn't have any but from what I do know, the
-700 is a real hot rod compared to the -200. The -700 has some engine problems recently that hopefully will get resolved soon. Interestingly though I asked two Horizon pilots I've had jumpseating on us what they thought of the -700. Both of them said they didn't like it "because it always breaks". They both came from the F-28, a very non-computerized airplane and maybe their perspective is different than former -200 pilots who fly it. Ask ASA or Comair pilots.

 

[Alaskaairlines]

Thanks guys!

I really do like how the -700 looks! Can't image why you wouldn't like the -700 over the F28? But I guess it gets annoying when it breaks!

 

[miller22]

-700 is just a new airplane, and the mechanicals are more of the pilots issues than the airplanes. Now that we know how to fix the glitches (like shutting down the aircraft and "rebooting") there are very few mechanical issues. 99% are computer related. Rumor was that Bombardier toyed with the idea of including a "ctrl-alt-del" button which rebooted all of the computers on the aircraft, but for some reason it never came to be. Woulda saved a lot of trouble. Especially with Horizon being the launch customer, they were the ones who had to figure it all out. Besides, the mechanical situations are mostly either nusiance messages, or a situation where pilots or rampees tried to treat it like a -200.

 

[Prop Trash]

Rumor was that Bombardier toyed with the idea of including a "ctrl-alt-del" button which rebooted all of the computers on the aircraft

Ahh yes, CNTRL ALT DEL is the answer to most MX issues in the EMB-145 also. Too bad Embraer didn't put a "reboot" button in the cockpit. It'd save a lot of time and trouble.

 

[SkyWestCRJPilot]

It seems like whenever we have some message that won't be cleared mx just has us depower the airplane and power it back up. It is pretty rediculous. I'm all for the ctrl-alt-del mod. Interesting to hear the ERJ-145 has the same problem. How about the new boeings? Do they have random electrons causing problems with computers requireing a powerdown to clear?