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[NJA Capt]

Do your numbers include perdiem, NJA bound?

His number is correct and does not include per diem or OT. All newhires start on the "reserve" schedule which is $46,286 base. If they bid the 7/7 schedule the base pay is $39,000.

 

[LAFrequentflyer]

Thats good money for starting. On reserve - can you pick up work on your days off easily and make some more $$$?

-LA

 

[bravodude]

$39,000., I crack up everytime I read that, NetJets First Officers start at $46,286. not $39,000. I bet those shares guys will get another raise as soon as they relize NetJets pilots make more than they do.

Keep laughing since we only have 7/7 and our fo's 40,000 then it would be more wouldn't it. But thats not the point. We recived our pay increase because NJ recieved a pay increase plain nd simple. would we have recieved something....maybee but nothing close to what we got. I f everyone would just stop bickering.

 

[bravodude]

We still dont come close to NJ. Pay might be the same but we dont come close on benefits.

 

[brokeflyer]

that 46k is base salary, not including overtime, holiday pay and per-diem.

7&7 FO's start at 39k, with everything added in that actually goes to about 45K.

as a new hire now you probly wont get the 7&7 so you would work the flex at 18 days a month.
46,000 - 39,000 = about 7,000 a year more to work an extra 4 days a month.

thanks but i'm staying at netjets.

 

[FL410Femme]

Is citationshares planning on getting a union soon? There are alot of us airliner's who like the union benefits, but are becoming victims of the economy.

Thank you for your answers.

 

[flx757]

He returns. Yet again.

How do you keep thinking up the usernames? That has to be harder than coming up with the lame flamebait.

 

[FL410Femme]

Who is "he"?

This is my first post on this forum. Sorry if it offended you. I am not a union organizer. I see some fractionals have them, others are working on getting them, and still others do not have them. I thought my question was ligit. As a potential job seeker, I find the different prospectives interesting.

So go ring your bells, if you even have them.

 

[XTW]

46,000 - 39,000 = about 7,000 a year more to work an extra 4 days a month.

thanks but i'm staying at netjets.

4 days x 12 months = 48 days

7000/48 = 145 a day

Doesn't sound like much of a good deal to me. Sounds like 7/7 plus a couple OT days here and there would be better. That's just me though.


X

 

[brokeflyer]

ok, then keep working where your at.

I work half the year, year 1 fo, and I'm doing about 43,500/yr.

I'm home 7 in a row with family, I eat good and don't pay for health, vision and dental. with 2 kids that's real important.

April i goto year 2 pay.

 

[XTW]

broke,

Relax. My statement wasn't meant to start a piss*ng contest about company A vs. company B. I was merely pointing out that the "7/7 w/OT" sounds better than the "reserve 18" as far as quality of life goes.

I'm glad we are both happy where we are. As it should be.

Regards,

X

 

[Jetz]

Who

He returns. Yet again.

How do you keep thinking up the usernames? That has to be harder than coming up with the lame flamebait.

Who are you talking about, Flx?

 

[ashaman]

4 days x 12 months = 48 days

7000/48 = 145 a day

Doesn't sound like much of a good deal to me. Sounds like 7/7 plus a couple OT days here and there would be better. That's just me though.


X

Hi. I like the logical, analytical approach you've used here. The numbers may be off though, because the 7 & 7 schedule actually works one 15.2 days per month. Meaning that the 18-day (reserve) schedule is only 3 days more, not 4. So it should be: 7,000/36 = 194/day. Even so, it still makes better sense to pick up extra days at the higher 'extra day' rate while on the 7 & 7. Unless, of course, the extra days are not available, in which case the reserve schedule would be the only consistant way to significantly raise your pay. I've no idea how reliably extra days are available for those who want the overtime.

 

[DBCOOPER]

Whoever these CS pilots are that have said immature things in the past are sure an embarrassment. Come on, every company everywhere has a few people like that. Give it a rest. Somebody back there was blabbing about CS having low time 20 something year olds.....man look into the company a little. We don't hire low time pilots, we don't hire everyone that walks thru the door...every pilot hired at CS has lots of flight time, usually atleast in their 30's, and must look good in a yellow tie. (That part is a joke folks).

CS is a fine place to work. The pay and benefits are pretty good, who cares if one company makes a little more or a little less than the other (CS vs NJ)....it doesn't really matter. Some of you sound like children on here, it's embarrassing to the profession.

According to the article that started this thread, the C.P of CS said that the company planned on the raises last summer...who knows for sure, but I (who has been a proud union member before) will say that it sure is nice working for a company that just hands out large pay increases without having to pull teeth for it over years and years of union dues. I know I've never worked for a company that has done something like that...can anyone name one that has recently??

Since day 1, CS management has said that they want to keep pilots happy by treating them well. This in turn is passed onto the owners we fly, and so on. Yes there are some things that could be worked on, but as far as I'm concerned....this place is an excellent place to work. Oh and upgrade is falling at about 10-16 months of service...all you have to do is go out, provide a good service to the customer and avoid landing at the wrong airport. It basically all comes in seniority order. Some of you guys out there really have a false idea and think the merit system is something that it really isn't. Guess that's the only thing some people can find to pick on us about.

Congrats to NJ for not being screwed every payday anymore, and to all the other frac.'s....do what you have to do to get raises. Get a union or find a company with good management so that you get what you deserve.

 

[Guitar rocker]

Whoever these CS pilots are that have said immature things in the past are sure an embarrassment. Come on, every company everywhere has a few people like that.
CS is a fine place to work. The pay and benefits are pretty good, who cares if one company makes a little more or a little less than the other (CS vs NJ)....it doesn't really matter. Some of you sound like children on here, it's embarrassing to the profession.

According to the article that started this thread, the C.P of CS said that the company planned on the raises last summer...who knows for sure, but I (who has been a proud union member before) will say that it sure is nice working for a company that just hands out large pay increases without having to pull teeth for it over years and years of union dues. I know I've never worked for a company that has done something like that...can anyone name one that has recently??

Yah, there are a few here (FRACTRASH and Bogart) who are really giving you guys a bad name. Let me ask YOU this......do you too think that you got a pay raise because your mgmt just said, here yah go, nice job boys??? Or in your opinion was it as a result of our contract???