Crew Pass in BWI

[pilotgolfer]

I finally get to go fly next week...its only been 18 months so I hope I didn't forget how to do it. Do I have to be in uniform to get through the Crew Pass lane? I'm deadheading to Europe and I would really like to avoid having to change clothes after getting through security.

Thank you for any info.

 

[Mike man]

...change clothes after getting through security.

I think that is a huge no no.

 

[becket]

I think that is a huge no no.

I've never heard that. What's the big deal and who the hell is going to know?

 

[FMEpilot]

Yes, you have to be in uniform to go through Crew Pass at BWI.

 

[stall022]

TSA = Justifying their jobs every chance they get.

 

[C-150ETOPS]

95% of what passes for "secure" or "protected" information is a f-ing joke, including most of what is considered SSI regarding the FFDO program which can be found by Google.

IMHO, I think any details regarding access past the village idiots in blue might be best left off a public forum.

Good luck on your trip.

 

[Mach 80]

Just how long does the TSA need to study Crew Pass before going to more airports? 18 months is not long enough? I'm sick of going thru security so I can get INTO MY COCKPIT AND FLY THE AIRPLANE. This absurdity has gone on long enough.

 

[stall022]

Actually I believe crewpass is no longer in the testing phase. It was approved some months ago for use at all airports. The hold up is that airlines must get together and pay an IT contractor to operate the system. ALPA was working on a cheaper inhouse program but I haven't heard anything on it in a few months.

 

[airlinepilot]

I use crew pass every week at BWI. One thing you can count on is it's never the same. Some will make you put on your uniform (shoulder boards and tie) and others don't care. Some make you show 2 forms of ID at the first desk while others figure the guy or gal at the second desk that actually checks you on crew pass are good enough. As always the TSA ...WELL THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE ....TOO MANY STUPID A****OLES

 

[Ty Webb]

What's wrong with changing after security? I've never heard of any restriction . . . seems pretty obvious they want you in uniform so they can see you're crew, and so the pax don't bitch. Once the show is over, who cares?

 

[StopNTSing]

They have it at PIT now.

 

[Captain Jeff]

What's wrong with changing after security? I've never heard of any restriction . . . seems pretty obvious they want you in uniform so they can see you're crew, and so the pax don't bitch. Once the show is over, who cares?

I remember reading some where that the TSA regards changing after security as "an attempt to avoid screening" or some bull like that. After all, you might bring the full size tooth paste into the secure area. And with that an a polo shirt you really could raise hell........

 

[pilotgolfer]

Thank you for the replies. Now if I go through normal security with my crew ID (out of uniform)...will they let the liquids/gels through?

 

[MD11Drvr]

I have asked 4 TSA supervisors and none of them had heard it was a problem changing clothes. But then again like the FAA ask 5 get at least 7 answers cause 2 will change their mind mid answer.

 

[C-150ETOPS]

What's wrong with changing after security? I've never heard of any restriction . . . seems pretty obvious they want you in uniform so they can see you're crew, and so the pax don't bitch. Once the show is over, who cares?

Who knows with these idiots. Here's my example.

Flew a busted sequence, one leg to hotel, DH home next am.
Splattered crew meal on pilot shirt. Next am I wore the usual uniform clothes except switched dirty shirt for Polo shirt, left hat in bag.

My bags go through the xray machine, alerts are sounded, TSA supervisor makes a tactical approach to my kitbag convinced he has discovered a tactical nuclear weapon. Well, not really, it was my bottle of hot sauce.

After his initial disappointment that it wasn't a nuke, and he wouldn't be getting the Congressional TSA Medal of Honor, he remained aggressive despite by profuse apologies for my 5:30 am oversight of Federal Code. the nuke, I mean the hot sauce, would be confiscated.

Not wanting to lose my favorite bottle, In a humble and respectful way, I suggested that he could hold it for me, I could exit, put on my scummy shirt to complete the "street legal" uniform, enter a again and everybody is happy.

It was then I was told, (with attitude), that if I did that, I would be arrested and charged with "by passing and evading airport security". It was a new one to me.

Of course I withheld my next thought that came to mind that I was already evading airport security by dealing with his "village idiot" arse.

My bottle of hot sauce became a POW of the TSA.


Here is some more lunacy. My next trip through the same airport security, I was legally clearing "behind the lines" with an item that was more dangerous than hot sauce, but less than a nuke

In the room was a box of 15-20 bottles of rum, confiscated from the unwary arrivals from the cruise ships. I mentioned that I hope it ends up at the TSA Xmas party, TSA (good guy) rolls eyes and says a Hazmat company actually has a contract for guys in protective suits to collect it and destroy it. I kid you not. Imagine what the bill is for that.

 

[crxpilot]

Thank you for the replies. Now if I go through normal security with my crew ID (out of uniform)...will they let the liquids/gels through?

Why dont you just try and find out? Let us know how it works out for ya!

 

[Flying-Corporal]

I could not never understand the logic of putting on your uniform. You're still the same person, same face, same legally employed airline employee even if you 're in a T-shirt and shorts. In TSA's opinion you become a different individual for some obscure reason.

 

[CRJ puppy]

Thank you for the replies. Now if I go through normal security with my crew ID (out of uniform)...will they let the liquids/gels through?

No, they won't.

 

[atpcliff]

hi!

Liquids/gels...it depends on the TSA screener...when I used to travel out of uniform, I always got through.

It seems that you are in uniform for convience...if that is the case, why stop? I now ALWAYS travel in uniform (unless w/ family...on vacation, etc.), and it is ALWAYS helpful. I get through Customs faster (or don't do Customs at all), get through security screening faster (or don't do screening at all), get better service on the plane, sometimes get upgraded to Business/1st class, ONLY because I'm in uniform, get to take 3 carry-ons, or get to take 2, when only one is allowed, get discount rates when I buy stuff at the airport, etc., etc.

If you don't like wearing the uniform, don't, be a civilian and do it the civilian way.

Have a great day!

cliff
LFW