Crash off Miami beach

[Hand Commander]

No PT6 problems? Lucky I guess.

Yeah, PT6's are problematic. That's why they're the choice of several manufacturers and operators in a variety of derivatives. Tool. I've experienced a failure in a sel turbo prop and was lucky enough to land back at the departure airport with no airframe damage. Does it change my attitude towards them? No way and I look forward to many more hours behind them.
Now the news is showing home video of the crash. Looks like wing failure. Very sad. Peace.

 

[airbrush]

I also used to work with PD, along with AIR2MUD. He was a good man (as is AIR2MUD), and his integrity was unquestioned. He was very happy to be flying for Chalk's, and I am stunned by this tragic event. Whatever the results of the investigation, we have all lost 2 fellow aviators, and several other families will grieve this week instead of celebrating what is supposed to be a season of happiness.

My prayers are with the families.

Nothing but blue skies now, Paul.

 

[MarineGrunt]

I find some of the posts on this thread to be disgustingly unprofessional and insensitive. I have been a faithful member of flightinfo for a few years, tried to contribute where I could, and learned a TON from some of the members here. Unfortunately lately, this place has taken a severe turn for the worse. I had taken no position in the little "rebellion" that took place here in recent weeks, but with disgusting pukes like these, the other side is looking better and better every day.

My heart is broken for each one of these families. As a father, I can't stop thinking about those chilldern on board, who were probably so exited to be flying on such a unique airplane to a tropical island for a week of gifts, happiness and sharing love with their family. I pray for their souls and their families.

As we said before, we are only one flight away from this happening to us. Cherish your loved ones and FLY SAFE!

 

[LJDRVR]

My heartfelt thoughts and prayers to the families of those involved. Couldn't have happened at a worse time of year.

Tragedies such as this serve as a reminder to all of us that we are playing for keeps. Let us use this as an opportunity to remind ourselves that human life is precious beyond all measure and that every time we push the thrust levers up we're taking responsibility for it all. There but for the grace of God (Or for you aethiests; a gigantic chunk of luck and good karma) go all of us.

Remember and hold dear the memories of those Aviators we once counted as friends but are now gone. They fly on with us every time we strap ourselves into an airplane, and we are enriched for having flown with them. If we are truly vigilant and introspective, the circumstances of their demise are recognized as tools to allow us to become safer and more effective, disciplined Aviators.

Rest in peace guys.

Anybody care to post the names of friends now lost to us?

I'll go first.

1Lt Robert Weinman
Keith Trahan
Jerrod Katt

I won't forget.

 

[Kaman]

Hello,
AW3 Michael "Boomer" Bumanglag lost at sea 1984 SH-2F
AW3 William Martnie lost at sea 1985 SH-2F

Both of these young men, barely out of their teens made the ultimate sacrifice for their country. And, many others that are still "on patrol".

Hopefully, some good will come out of this latest accident and we can all learn something that will prevent it from happening again.

Regards,

ex-Navy Rotorhead

 

[Knob]

RIP to the Crew & pax of the Mallard

On a side note, a 1900d in cys did have a turbine come off the shaft during a static TO resulting in an engine fire. The CA pulled the fire handle, and evacuated pax on the runway. Best place to have this happen-on the ground!

 

[canyonblue737]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/19/miami.crash/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

has video of the crash. appears wing came off and is trailing the main aircraft as the two hit the water. horrible, just horrible. my thoughts are with the victims and their families.

 

[CorpLearDriver]

http://www.ntsb.gov/Recs/letters/2004/A03_58_61.pdf

This is but one case and I know of maybe two others directly, but in over 4,000 hours of flying PT-6A powered aircraft, I have have found them to be very reliable. That's probably one of the greatest reasons the PT-6 is retrofitted to the Mallards.

I am praying for those involved and their loved ones.

 

[enigma]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/19/miami.crash/index.html?section=cnn_topstories

has video of the crash. appears wing came off and is trailing the main aircraft as the two hit the water. horrible, just horrible. my thoughts are with the victims and their families.

Words can't convey the sadness we all feel. RIP.



enigma

 

[fr8doggie]

Over 4,000hrs in PT-6 powered aircraft. No engine failures or shutdowns.
2,500hrs in Allison 501 powered aircraft (Herk). 10 engine failures/shutdowns.

F/O Clark Hurd
DC-3 BQN PR
1991

RIP

 

[big pimpn']

Sad day. RIP

 

[Say Again Over]

Condolences

Prayers and my sympathy go out to all of the crews friends and family.

 

[avbug]

Knwing the age of the fleet, probably lost a wing like that C130 fire bomber. That's my guess.

You should have stopped when you were spouting off about the PT6. That much is shear stupidity. I've flown behind them and worked on them, and stake my life on it. But when you brought up T-130, it happens I have personal knowledge there, and clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

What about the age of the aircraft caused the loss? Do YOU know?

 

[shamrock]

Wow, that video is hard to watch. My condolences to the families and friends of those who died.

I hitched a ride with Chalks about 5 years ago and it was one of the best experiences I've had in aviation. The Captain, who was (is?) also the Chief Pilot, went out of his way to explain why they couldn't get me on the first flight to Nassau and promised that if I waited around they would get me on the next one. And the landing in Nassau was awesome. Cool crew, great experience.

RIP guys.

 

[AIR2MUD]

2LT Justin Campbell, USMC, midair off FL coast near Ormond Beach

Paul DeSanctis, from Reading, PA - Chalk's Ocean Airways

Godspeed and tailwinds gentlemen...a part of me has gone with you.

Until we meet again.